Topic: Team Xecuter Xbox 360 Firmware Hack Update (Read 926 times)

mstandlee · « **Reply #120 on:** March 21, 2006, 05:35:00 AM »

I dont think this is possible because they arent changing the signed code that m$ put on the disks. They are just changing the way the disk is read.. However Im not very tech. with the 360 so this could be completely wrong..

Just my 2 cents though..

mstandlee

blagmaster · « **Reply #121 on:** March 21, 2006, 05:46:00 AM »

Fact is, Team Xecuter did alot for the community.

But so did Krayzie.

No need for disrespecting Krayzie for giving his opinion about this, he is right in my opinion.

airedwin · « **Reply #122 on:** March 21, 2006, 05:49:00 AM »

i think it won't be too difficult for MS to stop this they will have to change their protocol for the dvd drive
maybe adding authentication to the response from the dvd drive

barrywebb · « **Reply #123 on:** March 21, 2006, 05:52:00 AM »

QUOTE(airedwin @ Mar 21 2006, 08:56 PM)

i think it won't be too difficult for MS to stop this they will have to change their protocol for the dvd drive
maybe adding authentication to the response from the dvd drive

Xbox live is down right now. I have a feeling that they're already applying countermeasures. Most likely the situation will be similar to the past, where modded boxes can't go on Live, but they'll thrive and have their own ways for online play. Oddly enough, this actually *helps* MS gain more market share and makes the 360 more accessible to more people....at the expense of their software developers.

I wonder if the PS3 will ever have a hack like this....or maybe it will involve something more convoluted, like a connection to a hard disk with game backups, etc. But that's another topic altogether.

wmadoss · « **Reply #124 on:** March 21, 2006, 06:02:00 AM »

U dont have to brake the signature to replace or change ini files and such which will allow you to cheat.

airedwin · « **Reply #125 on:** March 21, 2006, 06:06:00 AM »

QUOTE(barrywebb @ Mar 21 2006, 12:59 PM)

Xbox live is down right now. I have a feeling that they're already applying countermeasures. Most likely the situation will be similar to the past, where modded boxes can't go on Live, but they'll thrive and have their own ways for online play. Oddly enough, this actually *helps* MS gain more market share and makes the 360 more accessible to more people....at the expense of their software developers.

I wonder if the PS3 will ever have a hack like this....or maybe it will involve something more convoluted, like a connection to a hard disk with game backups, etc. But that's another topic altogether.

ya i was wondering if someone was gonna figure esomething out for the ps2 also... it can't be too different
i think the same too that xbox live is down so they can add detection for modified firmware but i dont think this hack will be made for the masses because it's already specific in the sense you have to have the LG dvddrive and MS will keep changing with every batch that is released i mean it won't really stop it but it will make it more difficult and annoying, i don't see why a modchip can't be made that sits between the drive and the cpu? (logically not physically) that just does what the new firmware does but i guess more research is necessary for that
i also think that MS held off on their shipments too to see what sort of hacks come out and then they can address them in the next batch but that makes the first batch xbox360s that much more valuable

QUOTE(psxpirate1 @ Mar 21 2006, 01:07 PM)

I don't agree that this will affect Live in any negative way. How could it?

Once the signature is broken, it's broken! You can't cheat. There's no way around that. If you have proof to the contrary, please enlighten me. Having this hack will only boost Live subscriptions if there's no security check on the dvdrom firmware.

MS will probably ban you if they detect modified firmware but i don't think ti's hard for the hackers to spoof a legitimate firmware response so we'll see...

mrjkwik · « **Reply #126 on:** March 21, 2006, 06:26:00 AM »

Enough with the Krayzie vs Xecutor stuff. Krayzie used Xecutor bios in softmods. ie, he took a premade product and made it easy to install/use. Xecutor is looking towards using an exploit made by someone else, and making it easy to use. Both have contributed in one way or another, let it go.

Piracy "fear" is lame as well. As I stated in a previous post, if your backing your games up to your xbox, backing up dvds, or ripping your own cds, your already circumventing copyright protection. The firmware is helping bypass copyright protection. By circumventing copyright protections, you can either make a legal 1 to 1 copy of a product you have already bought, or you can pirate it. Right now, you cant really have one option without the risk of the other. Be consistent. Take the good with the bad. Piracy of copyrighted materials has been around since before many of you, if not all of us, have been alive.

The only real valid concern should be the effect on live. Then again, thats just my opinion.

twistedsymphony · « **Reply #127 on:** March 21, 2006, 08:19:00 AM »

QUOTE(echto @ Mar 20 2006, 09:21 PM)

Could the tool Team Xecuter is talking about be used to replace a broken DVD drive? If the 360 is expecting a specific dvd drive wouldn't it be possible to back up your original dvd drive's firmware and use it to write it to another similar dvd drive so the 360 would accept it? Just wondering. I see a tool like this having possibilities of saving the $400 spent that billy boy now uses as toilet paper.

This was the first thing I thought of when I heard this app was getting released, I can't believe there are nearly 170 responses to this news (so far) and you're the ONLY person to bring this up and no one even bothered to read it or respond...

Considering all DVD drives are locked to the mobo something like this Xecuter app could allow us to strip ut the code so we can swap drives out from one console to another.

Definitely good considering the number of people who are not happy with the drive their console came with. Not to mention people who do case mods, if you mess it up you could replace just the drive rather then the whole console.

krayzie · « **Reply #128 on:** March 21, 2006, 08:36:00 AM »

Like mentioned before I'm not interested in stupid flames and name calling. While I never used x2 bioses in my packages I do have one on my chipped xbox and it's working fine. Xecuter obviously deserves lots more credit than me when it comes to the modding comuntity and if people would claim otherwise I would be the first to say they are wrong. I have deep respect to any team/person that contributed to the scene and making it sound like I was dissing Xecuter was not my intention and therefore I apologise.
I'm just a bit tired overall in all the hyping of this hack. It's like all I see is pirate hungry newbies ready for downloading games asking about this hack acting like it's allready usable or will be within the next few days.

Banditt · « **Reply #129 on:** March 21, 2006, 09:17:00 AM »

The moral crusaders are killing this thread, It's getting old hearing from all you turds who are so worried about piracy preaching to the rest of us.
If you are against piracy and this hack, then guess what, don't use it. plain and simple. Opinions are like
A-holes, everyone has one and they usually stink, so keep it to yourself. + is this not the technical forum? Why is everyone discussing morals here?

This thread = teh garbage

krayzie · « **Reply #130 on:** March 21, 2006, 09:31:00 AM »

QUOTE(Banditt @ Mar 21 2006, 05:24 PM)

The moral crusaders are killing this thread, It's getting old hearing from all you turds who are so worried about piracy preaching to the rest of us.
If you are against piracy and this hack, then guess what, don't use it. plain and simple. Opinions are like
A-holes, everyone has one and they usually stink, so keep it to yourself. + is this not the technical forum? Why is everyone discussing morals here?
This thread = teh garbage

Are you aware that when this site turns into a pro-piracy info board it will probably be forced offline within no-time? If you can not sympathise with the forum rules then just go to a place where you can. We do not care what your morals are or aint but to be on these forums you have to abide by the forum rules. And apart from the moral complainers it's the pirate kids like yourself that are thrashing all these topics with their bullshit which are just as bad.

KR4ZYMAN · « **Reply #131 on:** March 21, 2006, 09:49:00 AM »

What was the topic again?

heraldoffailure · « **Reply #132 on:** March 21, 2006, 09:49:00 AM »

OK!

Many of you are missing the point. No one here gives a damn whether piracy is legal or not. We all know it is! But none of us care about that.

You can pirate crap all you want, I do, I DON'T CARE. You could destroy MS, I wouldn't care.

Something like a modchip has uses other than piracy, therefore the law allows it to exist, keyword ALLOWS. A firmware hack for the sole purpose of playing copies of games on your console has ONE use, piracy. And things with the sole intent of piracy don't last, EVER. See napster, that warez torrent site that was shut down supr *cough* no....,pandora's cube... ect... ect...

The legal repercussions that this will have on the scene, is everyone's concern.

NO ONE CARES ABOUT MS OR WHETHER WE GO TO HELL FOR MAKING COPIES OF GAMES!

We all care about the scene. If it wasn't here most of you would have nothing to do. The scene exists now because we play within the realm of legality (don't beleive me try reading the god damn forum rules). Once you cross that line, we're all fucked.

Banditt · « **Reply #133 on:** March 21, 2006, 09:57:00 AM »

QUOTE(krayzie @ Mar 21 2006, 04:38 PM)

Are you aware that when this site turns into a pro-piracy info board it will probably be forced offline within no-time? If you can not sympathise with the forum rules then just go to a place where you can. We do not care what your morals are or aint but to be on these forums you have to abide by the forum rules. And apart from the moral complainers it's the pirate kids like yourself that are thrashing all these topics with their bullshit which are just as bad.

Hmmm, I don't recall putting myself in the "Pirate Kid" category... do u chief? I never told you what my morals are or ain't as you so eloquently put it. Please don't make assumptions as to my point of the fence on this argument. What I was trying to say there was that this is a technical forum, meant to discuss things of a "Technical" nature. Not whether you think its right or wrong to use the FW hack. Also, as for this site being pro-piracy info board....What do you think was the major content on this board before all these homebrew apps came out? Oh thats right, you weren't a member yet. Well let me inform you. IT WAS INFO. ON HOW TO COPY GAMES AND HACK THE BOX... BTW what forum rules was I not abiding by? None? Exactly, so why are you being such a major tool and trying to come out with an attack on me?

blagmaster · « **Reply #134 on:** March 21, 2006, 09:58:00 AM »

QUOTE

And things with the sole intent of piracy don't last, EVER.

Yes they do, they just come back in another form.

Napster-> Limewire
SuprNova-> Mininova
etc. etc.

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