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[M-K-E!]

QUOTE(nwby @ Mar 19 2006, 09:16 PM)

dont be so stupid you clown... ruing the games industry.. yea like the dreamcast did..

actually, yeah.  system sales might go through the roof, but software sales wont, meaning developers will probably not make as many games for the system, just like the dc.  once there was self booting games, it wasnt long before it was dead.  piracy caused the early death of the dc, so yeah, let's do it again...

[clownbow]

QUOTE(jonels @ Mar 19 2006, 10:57 PM)

No, these files are not dated 2006, i don't know why it's reporting that to you. One of those files is listed as 2003.

My mistake it changes the dates after it downloads them.

[ChelseaDude]

QUOTE(M-K-E! @ Mar 20 2006, 12:00 AM)

actually, yeah.  system sales might go through the roof, but software sales wont, meaning developers will probably not make as many games for the system, just like the dc.  once there was self booting games, it wasnt long before it was dead.  piracy caused the early death of the dc, so yeah, let's do it again...

Why has piracy not killed the xbox then if what you are saying is true?

Kids..lol

[mku]

QUOTE(brakken @ Mar 19 2006, 09:57 PM)

MaxConsole has used part of this news post text per text and named it as their own. I just wanted to point out the paglarism going down. Trust me, I'm not trying to promote that site.

http://www.maxconsol...ews&newsid=6371

MaxConsole clearly state "The following comes from an article at Xbox-Scene." before the bit that was taken from the news post. Xbox-Scene is even bold since it's a link.

[M-K-E!]

QUOTE(ChelseaDude @ Mar 19 2006, 11:13 PM)

Why has piracy not killed the xbox then if what you are saying is true?

Kids..lol

why? because MS has the resources to keep the devolper's coming back,   sega did not.  plus, with the dc all you had to was burn the disk and you could play it. no softmod to instal or anything- all you needed to know was how to burn a cd image, or know someone who would burn it for you.

i can almost gaurentee you that if there were a self booting xbox system (wich there is not yet) like the dc had, the xbox would be phased out in a year or 2.  because right now, you can not play a backup on live. yeah, there's xlink and xbconnect but that is not live.  so, my self included, when i do buy a game i usually make sure it's a live enabled one- or i buy it specifically to play on live. if people dont need to buy a game to play on live, they wont.

kids..lol

[pdottz]

piracy did not cause the early death of the dc.

i use to work for a video game store. the only thing that caused the death of the dc was the ps2.
i always tried promoting the dc (i owned about $1000 worth of games i bought.)  almost 90% of customers that i tried to convince buy a dc said this "ill just wait for the ps2"

ps2 hype destroyed the dc. not piracy. im not saying i promote piracy in anyway or form but please get your facts straight before blaming something like piracy for the death of a system.

[M-K-E!]

no, i did not work for a game store, but commone sense, if the games were there, the sales would be there.  other then mostly first party titles, there were not many "killer apps" for the dc, because piracy was so easy, hardly any 3rd party developed for the system. yeah, there were a few, but most of them were sega's own dev studios.  there were only a few dozen games, if that, that are on the dc and other systems, and most of them were early launch games like tony hawk.

[zikronix]

QUOTE(clownbow @ Mar 19 2006, 10:49 PM)

here is the name of the new files i found at the usal place.

firmware flashing tools
HitachiLG8050
Philips_firmware
Samsung_SDG-605_firmware
all dated 20th march 2006

maybe this is real.

These are for xbox 1 and are not the hacked frimware from the specialist. These are just modded and stock firmwares from those drives.

These firmware will not allow you to play burned games on the xbox1 with out a mod chip.

As far as i know the modded firmware that allowed play of back ups with out a chip for the 1 model of xbox1 dvd drive hasnt been released

neither has the 360 mod...the 360 mod is going to require alot of work.

[0794]

Congratulations....i guess.

This news is pretty useless as basically it is just "look at what i did and i am not going to show you how."  Sure the main reason that they won't release this is because of MS’s lawyers, which I fully understand, but research like this can only be useful if shared and built upon to reach the common goal of unlocking the 360's hardware to be used to its potential with linux or xbmc-like programs.  Widespread piracy is not even an issue with this release as the difficulty to place the hacked firmware into the drive is beyond most.  So unless they plan to help those actually willing to spread this information, then I don’t care at all about what they have accomplished in secrecy.

[nj12nets]

i wish i was a moderator on here and just delete the bullshit posts.  seriously stop bitching, caould you do it before? no. can you do it now? no. so stfu. seriously thespecialist did it along with many other people who would not like to be #1 on ms's hitlist.  believe it or not to anyone that has a average iq it makes some fucking sense.

[majik655]

lots of things have changed on X-S since it has opened.

People or groups use to share knowledge with the masses.  Not ONLY within their so called "teams" or "groups"
groups and teams used to share the knowledge that they learned or created.

Because no matter how smart you are there are always those who are smarter in other areas, or even the area the teams were working on.
Teams and groups used to realize that the masses are smarter than few.  And even some joe blow can get lucky and figure out some way for homebrew to work.

Such as a programmer that just needs the firmware hack to start working or trying to get something working.. that the teams couldn't or maybe didn't even have time to try.

Give the knowledge or TOOLS in this matter to the masses.
out of 250000 people here on X-S you can bet more than likely just 1 of them could figure out a way to get something like homebrew running that the lonely 10 couldn't or did not have time to try or think about. if only he had the tool to try it with.

THAT is how things get done.   Minds of many are alot smarter than the minds of few (just look .. how many people are on M$ team to stop pirating.  lets say 100 probably high.   then 250000 people take a look at it and wow amazing... groups of people are figuring out a way to hack it and are being successful)

I am done.. I am sounding like the old man telling stories of how things used to be.   Guess things change.


great job to the individuals that figured this out, I would love to give you more props but I am kinda affraid that by saying thank you M$ may come after me too   lol

[0794]

QUOTE(nj12nets @ Mar 19 2006, 05:24 PM)

i wish i was a moderator on here and just delete the bullshit posts.  seriously stop bitching, caould you do it before? no. can you do it now? no. so stfu. seriously thespecialist did it along with many other people who would not like to be #1 on ms's hitlist.  believe it or not to anyone that has a average iq it makes some fucking sense.

"average iq," huh...from your vocabulary and the fact that you cannot even read a post correctly (since i mentioned that i understand them not making a direct release due to MS's repercussions, but that they should allow it to arise from the scene) i give you about low-average at best...

...and it actually sounds from your post like you were the one "bitching" as you put it...not me.

[Sonic_22]

QUOTE(pdottz @ Mar 19 2006, 05:30 PM)

piracy did not cause the early death of the dc.

i use to work for a video game store. the only thing that caused the death of the dc was the ps2.
i always tried promoting the dc (i owned about $1000 worth of games i bought.)  almost 90% of customers that i tried to convince buy a dc said this "ill just wait for the ps2"

ps2 hype destroyed the dc. not piracy. im not saying i promote piracy in anyway or form but please get your facts straight before blaming something like piracy for the death of a system.

You cant say Piracy was never a factor in the demise of the dreamcast, sure there were many reasons contributing to the demise of the dreamcast like Sega's poor finacial situation, the hype of the PS2, but you cant dis credit piracy for hurting its software sales.

Sure piracy was not the only reason dreamcast died, but it sure did assist in the death of it since it was so easy to do.

[dante327]

my personal opinion is that if they are not going to share then why should they be recognized, i mean i definetley have respect for them doing it because god know that i cant, we all knew it would happen and knew that it could so y give them props. there not helping us out any, only for the simple fact that we all knew that it would be done sooner or later, unfortunetly the people who did crack it are just gonna tell us they did and sit on it. i just dont think that they should have any recognition for this because in all honesty they are not helping the community by waving what they did in our face and not sharing. i mean come on you cant stop piracy and it will be cracked by a respectible team that is going to release the info so why not just give it up. piracy sucks but there is just no way around and it is inevitable

[speck311]

QUOTE(chr0ma @ Mar 18 2006, 10:53 PM)

A hacker is a hacker!  So this Specialist dude goes on the forums and brags(claims that he is trying to educate.. blah!) and tells everyone I'm hacking the FW for the 360 but I don't want to release it because it will bring the heat and allow people to pirate.   Well heads up dude, the heat is already on..  MS and the feds you can bet will be taking a close look at you.  A hacker is no worse than a pirate...  Guess what that Firmware you hacked is a COPYRIGHTED PIECE OF SOFTWARE that you modified..   SO you are no better than any pirate whether you release it or not...

What has happened to the scene?  Are people actually that niave that now they are starting to believe all the propoganda that has been thrown to the public to make pirates seem like the doom of the music, movies and software industry when in fact its the quality and business models these companies use?  And all these HIGH AND MIGHTY people spouting off stuff about piracy without even getting educated about it and realising how much the consumer is given the shaft when it comes to media sales today.. I mean just look in the last few months how much has been discovered about Sony and their Payola scandals and their copy protection software that sits secretley on your machine slowing it down and breaking many.

I sure am glad Bunnie and previous hackers weren't so freaked out about their work.  If they would of had the same attitude as this Special guy we would not be as far along as we are in the homebrew and hacking scene.   And before anyone says GET THE INFO AND MAKE IT YOURSELF..  Even though many of the details are posted there are still holes in the info that unless you have make it useless...

I have to give props to the guy for doing it, but doing it in public and in essence saying I HAVE IT AND YOU CANT HAVE IT makes me want to punch this dude in the throat..    See you on courtTV Specialist...

PS - flashfreak, MS can detect it but then it will be easy to change the code and reflash again.. So in essence it will be like the PSP 1.5 hack.. Where MS will patch and then everyone reflashes..  They cannot reflash the DVD firmware so basically they will have to come up with something else or it will be a back and forth game we will be playing.  The Specialist said himself that the hole in the FW MS left undermines the whole live patching process..

Hallelujah brother - I couldnt have said it better. Props though to The Specialist and the others if this is genuine. Even if they are withholding - I still hold respect for someone who can pull that off.