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[nj12nets]

QUOTE(794 @ Mar 19 2006, 06:40 PM)

"average iq," huh...from your vocabulary and the fact that you cannot even read a post correctly (since i mentioned that i understand them not making a direct release due to MS's repercussions, but that they should allow it to arise from the scene) i give you about low-average at best...

...and it actually sounds from your post like you were the one "bitching" as you put it...not me.

first of all, i did not point you out specifically and wow i didn't use spell check, i must have committed a crime.  But my complaint is that people on here are trying say thespecialist didn't hack the firmware, or that hes a asshole.  The truth is most of the people posting don't understand anything about homebrew or anything like that, all they want is to download and burn games.  If he was to release the hacked firmware, assuming he's in a country that considers piracy a crime, he can recieve jailtime.  MS could track him and subpeona him.  If he allows it to arise anonymously but t he scene knows he did it where do you think MS is gonna look.  Innocent until proven guilty isn't always the case. He has stated online that he was working on the MS firmware.  Now i believe their firmware is covered under the DCMA and tampering with the firmware is a crime, even trying to hack it would be considered conspiracy to pirate copyrighted material. If someone calling thespecialist an asshole wants to do it and release it then go ahead, learn how to hack it and then release it publicly, but thespecialist chooses not to relase it for the same reason x-s doesn't host any files that would be considered illegal, because they will then be held liable.

BTW low-average is funny,  but you must be pretty self absorbed and self centered to assume i was directing my past post at you when i didn't mention any names and given there are 27 pages of posts why would mine be directed towards you?

[brakken]

QUOTE(DaddyO21 @ Mar 20 2006, 01:40 AM)

What killed the DC was SEGA running out of money after the failure of Sega CD , Sega32x and Sega Saturn.

I agree, most people blame it on the *piracy* factor, but if you compare the numbers of the amount of piracy in the USA compared to Video Game Sales you'll realize piracy is a very small percentage.

[ShadowElitePro]

Well this is good and bad. The bad is the piracy that might come from this. Also wont LIVE just just udate the firmwire through Xbox Live?

[zerodefect]

why dont they just give step by step instructions on performing this firmware hack? last time i checked it was not illegal to provide information for educational purposes. thespecialist cant be held responsible if us technically minded end users just do the mod ourselves. sure we can just read the forum posts and im sure someone will release a hacked firmware, but that is just so counter productive. the goal in publically working on a project is just that, it is ment to help the public, none of which is happening. just give me the file dude and ill release it. get a good proxy and upload the instructions anonymously and good luck with ms PROVING you did it. like you said with the forum instructions someone should be able to do it. how do they know it was you? quit being such a bitch.

[gehx]

Wow, 9 pages of BULLSHIT and not one of them w/ any useful info regarding the hack.  Just a bunch of bickering/bitching children...WAHHH...give me my hack!  Get a life man! Way to go guys, you just turned this thread into a pile of heaping shit!

[0794]

QUOTE(nj12nets @ Mar 19 2006, 06:38 PM)

first of all, i did not point you out specifically and wow i didn't use spell check, i must have committed a crime.  But my complaint is that people on here are trying say thespecialist didn't hack the firmware, or that hes a asshole.  The truth is most of the people posting don't understand anything about homebrew or anything like that, all they want is to download and burn games.  If he was to release the hacked firmware, assuming he's in a country that considers piracy a crime, he can recieve jailtime.  MS could track him and subpeona him.  If he allows it to arise anonymously but t he scene knows he did it where do you think MS is gonna look.  Innocent until proven guilty isn't always the case. He has stated online that he was working on the MS firmware.  Now i believe their firmware is covered under the DCMA and tampering with the firmware is a crime, even trying to hack it would be considered conspiracy to pirate copyrighted material. If someone calling thespecialist an asshole wants to do it and release it then go ahead, learn how to hack it and then release it publicly, but thespecialist chooses not to relase it for the same reason x-s doesn't host any files that would be considered illegal, because they will then be held liable.

BTW low-average is funny,  but you must be pretty self absorbed and self centered to assume i was directing my past post at you when i didn't mention any names and given there are 27 pages of posts why would mine be directed towards you?

my apologies nj12nets...i really thought that you were directing your comments to me as your post followed mine...(oh, not that it matters, but for what it's worth, i was referring to the cursing and not the spelling... )

of course i am not in the group that considers thespecialist to be a bad person nor doubt his accomplishment.  i just wish for sharing of this info.

also, to the other poster, i could care less about playing "backups" as i am not a gamer (don't have time), i just want a 360 for when the hardware can be used for its potential.

[raylar]

since the days of Nintendo, "backups" were everywhere.  I recalled devices that copies the cartriage onto floppy disks then loads them into the console.   Then you have CD-R backups.

Yeah, piracy hurts the console business. Maybe thats why Nintendo, Super Nintendo, PS1 or PS2 didnt sell over 1 trillion unit each, like they were suppose to without piracy.  

Console like Atari's 64bit system "Jaguar" must have been a sucess because of low piracy(or at least I dont recall seeing them in Asia, the "only" place in the world that have piracy issues....)


bunch of bullsh!t.  Piracy hurts the business? People who cannot afford to buy games at $40-70/each will never buy no stupid console @ $350+.  People who wants to pirate will at least NEED to save some money to buy console(probably get a part-timie job, etc) and once they make enough to buy a console you probably can afford to buy a game or two too.  Maybe not all the time, but once a while they just might go out to buy a game they've been waiting for too. Hell, the person you want to pirate from, will need to have an original.  thats one copy sold.  With region lock and digital signature, even with pirates ISO images on the net  they are limited to a certain region, not everyone in the world.

Not releasing to public -  its like occupying an entire toilet even after you are done using it and know that there are a bunch of people waiting right outside to use it.  "I let you know how clean and nice these stools are, I can even show you videos of it, but find your own toilet like this!"   You could have just open the door and share with others, instead of having them go out of their way to find other "avalable sources".   Eventually everyone is going to get their business done and you know its inevitable.  Once its released by other group, only the hard-core hackers will remember your name.  All the "fame" will be taken by the releasing group.  The fact is most of the peopl (who dont even read these forums) will see real work hacks, and believe its releasing group's idea unless in the NFO file they claimed its from so-and-so's idea.

Or it could be just bunch of bs.  Anyone can make a un-cut video with the two xbox360 method.

[Xombe]

QUOTE(OldGuru @ Mar 20 2006, 09:07 AM)

I download games, and yes i want the xbox360 to be hacked for one reason so i can download games for free. So i dont need to pay sky high prices for games that i dont think its worth it. Stay away from it then some people might say, well fuck you is what i got to tell you, there shouldent be any other purpose of trying to hack the xbox if you aint gonna release it so all pirates can use it for their advantage. If your against piracy , drop dead and die you stinky ass mutherfukkers.

Welcome to Xbox-Scene.  Enjoy your vacation... Do what you will in your on life, but don't bring foul language for the sake of foul language onto our boards, nor take the bad-boy-pirate stance around here.


Note to others: Please remember this thread is being read and moderated.  

Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but we still have rules and opinions must be expressed under the guidelines set out under the rules and posting policy.

This falls back on what HSD said in his editorial about free speech, and the limitations reality imposes on it.

Thank you.

[m0dhe@d]

this forum has turned into a bunch of moronic 12 year olds. get this its hacked code. it dosnt belong to him hes not allowed to distribute it. he didnt distribute it when he did it to the xbox 1 too. and its not going to happen. get this its real for those of you nonbelievers. you should stop being jerks. hes not bragging cause he hacked it. its a breakthrough in 360 hacking and releasing it would just get ms a chance to patch it and then it wouldnt even be usefull to us anymore. lets keep it under wraps it may come to some sort of use for further hacking. if you dont have anything nice to say dont say it at all this is suposed to be a technical discussion on the subject not a flamefest. you guys give a bad name to the scene this thread should be closed since its turned into this.

[M-K-E!]

QUOTE(DaddyO21 @ Mar 20 2006, 01:40 AM)

What killed the DC was SEGA running out of money after the failure of Sega CD , Sega32x and Sega Saturn.

and i mentioned that too, as to why ms still has all of it's 3rd party support, that once the dc was completely opened up, sega did not have the capitol to keep the developer's there like ms does.

[ShadowElitePro]

Wow this fight is getting nasty!    The fact is piracy makes companys struggle. I dont care if some of you say " $60 for a game!" If your not going to buy it then dont steal it. Game delevopers spend tons of money paying all the workers of the game.

OFFTOPIC- gehx you can only have one image per sig.

[M-K-E!]

QUOTE(ShadowElitePro @ Mar 20 2006, 03:43 AM)

The fact is piracy makes companys struggle. I dont care if some of you say " $60 for a game!" If your not going to buy it then dont steal it. Game delevopers spend tons of money paying all the workers of the game.

OFFTOPIC- gehx you can only have one image per sig.

yeah, that's the other reason why i dont really care if this doesnt get released (wich i see now it is soon).  yeah, 60$ for a game is expensive, but if everybody that downloaded the game bought it, chances are that would be lower.

myself, i download them and play them for a day or two, and if i like them, i go buy it, or if dont like it, i dont waste my money.  i also dont like renting because i dont see paying 10$ for a game to play it for 5 days worth it, when i could pay a little more and play it whenever and however long i want to, and i also dont want to pay 10$ for a magazine to get a disc with a select few demos.

but i know plenty of people that have the money and still dont buy the game...

and also, somone mentioned that there too cheap to pay for live since there are free alternitives. well, if you think that way, then this mod is not for you. the only reason i can see someone doing this instead of just doing a softmod is to play backups on live- assuming it works (dont see why not).


either way, it's nice to see this kind of progress.

[haza55]

This hack IS REAL.
The Proof of it.
1. 49 Pages forums posting from december about it
2. If u put a dvd-r in the 360 the laser head would not move like that, it would probly Read it for a sec and stop because the disc is not real.
3. the board to the left of the drive has a EEPROM chip on it, and he would hav been using this as the firmware instead of the onboard eeprom.
4. WHO HAS 2 COPIES OF PGR3, two real ones because if he had 2 xbox360s y would there be the pgr3 disk there.
5. the loading is in perfect sync

[CrystalXBOX]

QUOTE(haza55 @ Mar 20 2006, 07:41 AM)

4. WHO HAS 2 COPIES OF PGR3, two real ones because if he had 2 xbox360s y would there be the pgr3 disk

I was hearing you out till I got to #4.. lol..

[v8azlin]

I'm not saying that I don't believe that this is true.

I'd just like to see a video with:
i. A look at the back of the TV to show that nothing else is connected.
ii. The guy plugging in the AV cord into the back of the 360 and the TV.

  Well done guys.