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[Predtech]

Yeah

[adamscybot]

This description. I only see chatting amongst each other which ends around february. Im guessing im looking the wrong topic...

Adam

[Questioner]

Um, this is their second video, who knows who made that:

http://rapidshare.de...ckORG.mpeg.html

[memturbo]

I made that video as a joke .

Seriously does anyone here have a sense of humor .

If you read the description on the video it is clear.

Here's a hint in the description write down all the capital letters
in order .

[Fuel90]

I'm laughing......

[Lizotte]

QUOTE(jedimaniac @ Mar 19 2006, 02:08 PM)

 Even if this did get released i dont think m$ is crapping themselves. One quick update on xbox live and its all over. I can probably guarantee they are already working on this now.

Now some of you are thinking, well thats ok i will never go on xbox live. yeah that will work temporaraly but the next ganeration of games released will prob have mandatory updates on the dvd and bang! back to square one.

Not true really. With each firmware being unique the only way live or dvds could check is to a) be able to read the firmware directly (which from what I can tell the xbox 360 "application layer" can't and do a hash of some sort that is individual per machine. Either one of those has its exploitable holes as well, and either mechanism creates a whole set of headaches for MS to manage over the lifetime of the console.

QUOTE(jedimaniac @ Mar 19 2006, 02:08 PM)

In fact the odds are m$ are rubbing there hands together themselves because sales trippled once the original xbox was hacked.

Umm sales CANT triple on the 360 because they still can't even meet global demand. Have you walked into a store and seen stacks of 360s sitting there? I have yet to walk into a store and see a single 360 other than the kiosk unit.... So no, MS won't be happy and unlike the original xbox mod chips, this firmware is a direct absolute violation of the DMCA. There is no reasonable use here other than playing backups. Whoever releases this hacked firmware into the wild will be tracked down, and better plan to never visit the US if they live outside of it.

[Questioner]

Buzz has died down finally, and may stay so until another group figures it out and releases it or tries to profit from it.

[mik30]

QUOTE(MacDennis @ Mar 19 2006, 03:51 AM)

He doesn't even own a x360 silly.
It has been hacked. Get over it.

You are just a freeloader, face it.

I do not care to be called a freeloader at all. That does not hurt me.
It also does not matter if TS owns a 360 or not.
If you would have read, what I wrote, correctly, you would have understood
that I wrote about the original´s XBOX firmware hack.

In contrast to most of the lamers supporting here your claims of success
I indeed read the whole thread about the XBOX firmware hack.

Deal for once with the facts I wrote.
1. The truth is that the notorous thread does *NOT* describe at all how
    the firmware has to be patched to make the hack.
2. The thread itself just deals with speculations about how a hack might work.
    Nothing more. There are no facts in it about the place of the auth. code in the firmware.
    What would be easier to release a commented source code of the firmware
    and the hack? So anybody could verfy the results on his own.
3. TheSpecialist itself, which is often praised here nearly like a hero in hacking is
    truly such a lamer that he even asked a few days before he released his success
    message how to send packet commands to the XBOX drive connected to the PC.
   Can you imagine how a guy who does not know such a basic thing is capable of
   hacking a firmware? Get real...
4. TheSpecialist wrote that he denies to release the firmware because he tries to obey
    the law. This is by far the most rediculous & stupid excuse I ever read from a faker.
    The truth is, that according to the law, reverse engineering is forbidden at all. So if
    he would obey the law he would not change the firmware in the first place.
5. In addition to this, he also wrote in the notorious thread, that he got several
    informations about how the authentication check might work directly out of the
    secretly spread source code from the original´s XBOX firmware.
6. Simply having this MSs source code is against the law.

So what is this liar trying to fool us with if he excuses his denial with a cheap referal
to the law that he is constantly breaking himself, according to his own statements.

I go beyond this: What is cool about a hack that is claimed to be done with the
official source code of the XBOX BIOS right beside you? NOTHING

@MacDennis: You are just a moron if you back up this faker.

All these claims look to me very similar to the claims about the so called "cold fusion"
that got published in the well known scientific magazine NATURE. After all the whole
thing was just a fake.

I am indeed a disbeliever and I do not care to be accused of blasphemie...

[blagmaster]

QUOTE(constanboi @ Mar 19 2006, 05:33 PM)

wow, if that is really their second video.. then wow... these people are looking more and more like team ice.... seriously, its SO EASY to make a believable video... and they make these pathetic attempts of a video. i mean COME ON PEOPLE.. its NOT hard!!!!!!!!
p.s dont tell me that crap that the proof is on xh.. i WENT there and READ all i could find.. and there is NO proof there.. all there is theorys and speculation + tons of gaps and holes............ so NO.. at first i was a believer.. but after these 2 videos and the pathetic reasons they have given to not release it.. im starting to think this is all BS... (god, please let me be wrong)....

p.s2 for anyone that says "its obvious why they wont release it, ms will sue them dead..." well ask yourself these 2 questions, 1- do you really think that what theyve done is legal? if ms was able to catch them, theyd be in a heat of trouble, 2- if they REALLY are against piracy, why did they waste 4 months trying to do this? fully knowning they would only be able to run backups? and then the fact that they did it publicly, and now say that they wont release it because theyre against piracy? seriously... I just cant understand their hypocritical mentality......

Because they fucking can, and you can't....bitch.

[javace79]

I wonder if the X360 DVD drive is also able to recognzie and play backed up regular XBOX 1 games and emulate them correctly, or if the check M$ performs is different for XBOX 1 game discs.

[sexb0xxx]

QUOTE(mik30 @ Mar 19 2006, 05:06 PM)

I do not care to be called a freeloader at all. That does not hurt me.
It also does not matter if TS owns a 360 or not.
If you would have read, what I wrote, correctly, you would have understood
that I wrote about the original´s XBOX firmware hack.

In contrast to most of the lamers supporting here your claims of success
I indeed read the whole thread about the XBOX firmware hack.

Deal for once with the facts I wrote.
1. The truth is that the notorous thread does *NOT* describe at all how
    the firmware has to be patched to make the hack.
2. The thread itself just deals with speculations about how a hack might work.
    Nothing more. There are no facts in it about the place of the auth. code in the firmware.
    What would be easier to release a commented source code of the firmware
    and the hack? So anybody could verfy the results on his own.
3. TheSpecialist itself, which is often praised here nearly like a hero in hacking is
    truly such a lamer that he even asked a few days before he released his success
    message how to send packet commands to the XBOX drive connected to the PC.
   Can you imagine how a guy who does not know such a basic thing is capable of
   hacking a firmware? Get real...
4. TheSpecialist wrote that he denies to release the firmware because he tries to obey
    the law. This is by far the most rediculous & stupid excuse I ever read from a faker.
    The truth is, that according to the law, reverse engineering is forbidden at all. So if
    he would obey the law he would not change the firmware in the first place.
5. In addition to this, he also wrote in the notorious thread, that he got several
    informations about how the authentication check might work directly out of the
    secretly spread source code from the original´s XBOX firmware.
6. Simply having this MSs source code is against the law.

So what is this liar trying to fool us with if he excuses his denial with a cheap referal
to the law that he is constantly breaking himself, according to his own statements.

I go beyond this: What is cool about a hack that is claimed to be done with the
official source code of the XBOX BIOS right beside you? NOTHING

@MacDennis: You are just a moron if you back up this faker.

All these claims look to me very similar to the claims about the so called "cold fusion"
that got published in the well known scientific magazine NATURE. After all the whole
thing was just a fake.

I am indeed a disbeliever and I do not care to be accused of blasphemie...

waaaaaaaa

another 12 year old spotty kid who is crying that they wont release the hack so he can play backups

all the information is on the xbh forums for you to replicate it yourself, but you are blatently too dumb to understand the information there.

[JUANVAN]

Since they have passed the MediaFlag test, could there be a way to allways tell the security check the sig is good with a firmware hack?

[Questioner]

Hmmm, I have to say I just noticed the dvd in the video is single layer, project gotham is more than 7 gb in size.

[NEWLiNE]

HA! Theirs proof in itself, PGR on a single layer dvd-r!, such a Fake!

[Questioner]

QUOTE(NEWLiNE @ Mar 19 2006, 05:51 PM)

HA! Theirs proof in itself, PGR on a single layer dvd-r!, such a Fake!

It wouldn't be proof but it's supposed to be a 1:1 copy.