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[sew3521]

i really dont know how MS would check for the firmware....Im not skilled enough to be considered a hacker, so correct me if im wrong but is it possible for MS to implment code into the kernal over a live update that would check the firmware? If so well that would suck but i dont think MS would be able to do that because it would open the door for alot of problems.  These problems would not be worth stoping the xbox modding community because well while we are big we really arnt that big in the whole scheme of things...I'm the only one i know personally that has a modded xbox...

Also i have seen all these ppl saying that this will only lead to illeagle backups, well what about legal backups?  I refuse to buy a game after MoH got scratched up, and no i did not move my counsole or anything like that...I make copies of all the DVD's I OWN that way if they get scratched i can make a copy of my origional again.  I hope they release this mod but if they dont well what can i do about it?  I could make it myself but if i did i would not release it to the public for fear of MS's legal team, therefor i understand why the wont release it.

~Stephen

[psxpirate1]

The X-S forums are quickly degenerating into the DC Emulation boards. It's no wonder we have less coders and people posting projects.

[mandrake001]

the laser already reading divr sector's on startup that is not possible on unmd fw drive it stops at first sec with reading from disc

[Gmc]

QUOTE(Questioner @ Mar 18 2006, 10:07 PM)

Ugggg, please look back in this thread for the numerous explanations as to why this is different from any past fake mod.

No its not. Alot of groups even having released stuff in the past, will still do stupid things like this for attention.
Ave a look thru the PSP scene, its happened (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) lol

[adamscybot]

QUOTE(sew3521 @ Mar 18 2006, 10:18 PM)

i really dont know how MS would check for the firmware....Im not skilled enough to be considered a hacker, so correct me if im wrong but is it possible for MS to implment code into the kernal over a live update that would check the firmware? If so well that would suck but i dont think MS would be able to do that because it would open the door for alot of problems.  These problems would not be worth stoping the xbox modding community because well while we are big we really arnt that big in the whole scheme of things...I'm the only one i know personally that has a modded xbox...

Also i have seen all these ppl saying that this will only lead to illeagle backups, well what about legal backups?  I refuse to buy a game after MoH got scratched up, and no i did not move my counsole or anything like that...I make copies of all the DVD's I OWN that way if they get scratched i can make a copy of my origional again.  I hope they release this mod but if they dont well what can i do about it?  I could make it myself but if i did i would not release it to the public for fear of MS's legal team, therefor i understand why the wont release it.

~Stephen

ms can check your firmware for sure by using an update (as far as I can see).

Your point on backups is interesting. You are what we would call a legit user. But unfortunetly, most people wouldnt use it this way and would just play backups illegaly.

I wont be surprised when this pops up as assembled on xbins or something along them lines.

Adam

[pirichios]

wow i cant believe that something like this type of hack would happen so early in this genertaion of xbox 360
its a great hack now its only a matter if other people take it up to themselves to replicate this hack
btw amazing job for all the guys who did this

[kezor]

ok this hack is stupid first because getting all the media hype and all that stupid shit, just release it if you want to be made famous, the programming the dvd drive chip wouldn't be so hard, solder wires to each pin, hook it up the LPT port of a pc, LPT is used in flashing xbox 1 chips so, I wouldn't think it would be hard to flash it.

[JimmyGoon]

So... MS will start using a different type of DVD drive.. whoopde doo.

Props to the developers. My money's on a leak or someone anomously releasing it... but really MS could prevent this on all future consoles.

that and piracys bad. shame on you kids. (lol)

This post has been edited by JimmyGoon: Mar 18 2006, 10:05 PM

[BlueCop]

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So... MS will start using a different type of DVD drive.. whoopde doo.

they already did. this hack they are showing is only for the hitachi.

the toshiba-samsung are in all the new 360s

i got the toashiba-samsung with my premium.

there are people developing a hack for it as well.

piracy isn't always bad for a company. take early version of windows. they were pirated all the time and that only helped the company. it gave them market share.

This post has been edited by BlueCop: Mar 18 2006, 10:09 PM

[Questioner]

QUOTE(Gmc @ Mar 18 2006, 08:26 PM)

No its not. Alot of groups even having released stuff in the past, will still do stupid things like this for attention.
Ave a look thru the PSP scene, its happened lol

If you consider all aspects of it, there has never been a more elaborate fake attempt if by some miracle it is. It's far more than just a video or website coming out of the blue. It's weeks of dozens of people or perhaps a few posters posing as dozens of people sharing and developing code publically.

I don't recall any previous fake being supported by xbox scene or the other respected scene sites.

[jizmo]

Some people seem to miss the big picture here. Backup booting can enable very nice side effects when the right data files are modified. Original soft modding was harder because you had to initiate it from the untouched original, try to get it running some save games etc - now some smart hacker can inject stuff straight to the data files to try to make it behave in unexpected ways.

Getting the XBMC running with some sort of modified loader under BC would be so sweet.

Also, when people say that this hack doesn't enable homebrew, that just isn't entirely correct. It allows the DVD+R version of the original kiosk disc to be bootable again enabling homebrew Flash dev again.

This post has been edited by jizmo: Mar 18 2006, 10:31 PM

[SlammedNiss]

QUOTE(Gman22 @ Mar 18 2006, 02:06 PM)

You claim that MS will lose millions.  How?  From all the games that the pirates weren't going to buy anyways?
Gman22

No, not from the lost sales of games, but the actual sale of the hardware. Remember, they LOSE money everytime they sell a console. As much hype as the 360 has generated just since it's release, more people will want to buy one if they knowingly can run pirated games.

[CattyKid]

QUOTE(kezor @ Mar 18 2006, 03:28 PM)

ok this hack is stupid first because getting all the media hype and all that stupid shit, just release it if you want to be made famous, the programming the dvd drive chip wouldn't be so hard, solder wires to each pin, hook it up the LPT port of a pc, LPT is used in flashing xbox 1 chips so, I wouldn't think it would be hard to flash it.

Look, these people don't want to be famous.  They are telling us all that something can be done and how to do it.  Why let them do all the work and have all the fun?  If they wanted to be famous, they would give us their real names, addresses, etc.  Oh wait, they didn't, now did they?  Maybe it's because they don't want MS there, but they didn't.
I can think of some things that I believe are pretty stupid as well, ahheemmm... sig violations.

[lilbplaya3406]

What the hell, i saw llamma do this along time ago with the same game. These guys could of done the same thing and said it was there own. Heres a video that was posted on December 27, 2006. http://www.youtube.c...p?v=PlT7hfls88E

[MrPhunkee]

DOnt believe till the release, so for now its a hoax