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[Vegita]

Well if someone does manage to find a way to break this encryption in general, then they should keep their progress to themselves or they'll be assassinated.

[JoHnnyTK36]

Not saying that it can or will be cracked.

BUT, if some of the toughest sercurity was cracked because some people want to put their games on the xbox instead of carring the disc's, i would just have to laugh.

[s0ftm0d]

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never say never i will never give up! to the grave!! sure its a big number, but nothing is ever tooo big.. i mean it won't be the end of the world if rsa keys are factored in a novice way. we'll just have q-bits to secure everything then.

Please tell me you are joking, and are not still actually thinking about this.  Why does not anyone listen to the VoiceOfReason, which I better add, is the best name for this situation.  

[arjkar]

QUOTE(azninvasion @ Dec 4 2005, 08:36 AM)

I doubt it will take 10 years to crack the private key. In 5-6 years i'm betting nano cpu's which will be 1 million times denser will render all current forms of security useless.  

not necessarily, as one would just make a bigger key, one that would take the "nano cpu's" you mentioned just as long to crack as current ones.

Note: this agrees (still--nothing is changed) with the last post made by lumpkin

[VoiceOfReason]

QUOTE(LumpKin666 @ Jan 4 2006, 03:59 PM)

It could be possible that the very first value tested is the correct value, thus making the whole process of cracking this thing take 1 nanosecond.

Yes, this is possible. It is also possible that you might win the Lotto. Fifty times in a row. The latter is a lot more likely than finding the key in the very first value you check. Or the very first billion values you check.

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Statistically, it's never going to happen.  But insisting that it is completely impossible is silly.

I don't recall saying that it's a theoretical impossibility. But it certainly is a practical impossibility. True, you might get lucky. The odds of this are so incredibly tiny that if it happened, it would be the unlikeliest thing to ever have happened in the history of the universe.

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There's no saying that the value that you're looking for is actually going to be the LAST possible value.

This is true. Statistically speaking you can expect to try about half the possible values before you find the key. This means that instead of taking an average of ten skillion gajillion hooptibillion years, it'll only take five skillion gajillion hooptibillion years. Big improvement.

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Heck, why not let people try?

Uh, I'm not preventing anybody from trying, any more than I'd prevent anybody from wasting his time on any other useless endeavor.

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You'd completely crap yourself if, by some glorious act of supreme power, someone stumbled into the correct value in a couple weeks.

Yep, I most certainly would. But I think my clean white underwear is pretty safe.

[billygoatz]

VoiceOfReason

You sound like you would be a good programmer,

but you would be a awful social worker.

99.99+ members on this site aren't hackers and never will be, however they still want to feel like they are contributing.

I own a assisted living home,
and found that people are happier, and live far longer, when they feel they are helping.
I have one lady that loves to wash the dishes, it makes her feel needed. And after she goes to bed,
 I pull all the dish back out and re wash them. Everyone is encouraged to pitch in.
 
My residents live, on average far longer than what they would in other homes that don't allow resident to help.

Feeling like your needed, pulls communities together. This project could only make this community better.
Hell maybe the project would  get "slashdotted" which would bring more members, and maybe some more real hackers.

To make the long story short, either they can do something that has little chance of success, but feel part of the community, or nothing at all.

I know your mind is set in your beliefs,
 
but some times you need to forget about Statistics, pay your dollar, and get you quickpick.



I choose "7"  as my prime number for the private key.

[OpticNurv]

QUOTE(billygoatz @ Jan 5 2006, 07:15 PM)

VoiceOfReason

You sound like you would be a good programmer,

but you would be a awful social worker.

99.99+ members on this site aren't hackers and never will be, however they still want to feel like they are contributing.

I own a assisted living home,
and found that people are happier, and live far longer, when they feel they are helping.
I have one lady that loves to wash the dishes, it makes her feel needed. And after she goes to bed,
 I pull all the dish back out and re wash them. Everyone is encouraged to pitch in.
 
My residents live, on average far longer than what they would in other homes that don't allow resident to help.

Feeling like your needed, pulls communities together. This project could only make this community better.
Hell maybe the project would  get "slashdotted" which would bring more members, and maybe some more real hackers.

To make the long story short, either they can do something that has little chance of success, but feel part of the community, or nothing at all.

I know your mind is set in your beliefs,
 
but some times you need to forget about Statistics, pay your dollar, and get you quickpick.
I choose "7"  as my prime number for the private key.

very good, very very good, now you see, i do know the possibilities of us finding said key are 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to one if not greater, but i do also encourage this kind of additude, you dont win a game of football by sitting on the sidelines being a mopey little bitch about how you dont think the play will work, you get on the field & try it (unless you're a 49ers fan), furthermore, if anyone wants to set up a mainframe for calculating the results (kinda like the neo project) i'll gladly connect my pc until said key is cracked

[modthebox.tk]

I feel the same way about the whole thing. Some are hackers and some aren't. Those that aren't sometimes give ideas to hackers they themselves don't know how to do. Actually, my friend developed a C++ program that not only tries to get the private key, but logs the fails in text.

We have yet to actually get it running because it involves inserting the public key in the code which cannot be processed. Anybody have any idea how to get around this?

[s0ftm0d]

Voice is not just trying to put people down, he is telling it the way it is.  The damn key is not going to be cracked, just get over it.  Like he says go ahead and try but nothing is going to come of it, there is a reason why this is used in governments and the like.

[krayzie]

QUOTE(billygoatz @ Jan 6 2006, 04:15 AM)

VoiceOfReason

You sound like you would be a good programmer,

but you would be a awful social worker.

99.99+ members on this site aren't hackers and never will be, however they still want to feel like they are contributing.

I own a assisted living home,
and found that people are happier, and live far longer, when they feel they are helping.
I have one lady that loves to wash the dishes, it makes her feel needed. And after she goes to bed,
 I pull all the dish back out and re wash them. Everyone is encouraged to pitch in.
 
My residents live, on average far longer than what they would in other homes that don't allow resident to help.

Feeling like your needed, pulls communities together. This project could only make this community better.
Hell maybe the project would  get "slashdotted" which would bring more members, and maybe some more real hackers.

To make the long story short, either they can do something that has little chance of success, but feel part of the community, or nothing at all.

I know your mind is set in your beliefs,
 
but some times you need to forget about Statistics, pay your dollar, and get you quickpick.
I choose "7"  as my prime number for the private key.

What the hell.... We are on a realistic xbox modding site. Not on some Dr. Phill episode. We are not here to please everyone or try to make people live longer. What are you on?

[krayzie]

ouch...you've just shortened my life with 2 hours.... that hurts

[mksoftware]

The ICE team or something put there website online...
They say they have a direct boot soldering solution, website opens tommorow...

Don't think this is real but could be real

http://www.icemodchip.com


RE: Think it's fake, it has indeed the same owner as the infinity website they allmost got me here  

[Avenger 2.0]

I think it's a billion times more likely MS leaks the key themselves, than that we are going to find it...

[modthebox.tk]

all I was asking for was some advice on how to make the number smaller so that it can be processed.

who the hell ever said my friend or I would be succesful at this? We know that our chances of getting the key is


100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

to one.

[dcnigma]

QUOTE(VoiceOfReason)

Yes, this is possible. It is also possible that you might win the Lotto. Fifty times in a row. The latter is a lot more likely than finding the key in the very first value you check. Or the very first billion values you check.

i wass gone make the same remark like you. that was its likelyer that you win the lotto before you find the key.
I don't know shit about hacking, ok i know a little bit. And i find Its cool to see all so eager to hack the new box.

And in away, ms challenged us by saying we build a hackproof system. but there a lot of kids with nifty toys.
thats like saying where better then you.

A few days ago i seen alot of 360 info on the net, all where saying xbox hacked 28 dec. ok the video's where fake.
but that day the kiosk disk made day light. now there are these strange rumours about a mod chip been relased 1ste of jan, now there postponed to 31 of jan. no photo's where relased because of securitie reasons. in fact this is funny for security reasons
there been some phone calls the website is up today tomorow we get more info etc..

This is all good news or is it?  
its cool that we can run or own apps on the xbox360, but i din't follow the "programs dev" forum on 360
are the 360 progs written?
The other good news why its good news. is because we can run ower bacups because the 360 like"s scratching dvd's.

This had nothing to do with how good the 360 security but i follewed the forum very close and i got to say nothing new for me so gone get me some  

just some thing to say about the hole xbox 360 crazy hackingnis

Ciao