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mickey797

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« Reply #255 on: April 22, 2008, 08:21:00 AM »

QUOTE(robert74 @ Apr 22 2008, 03:32 PM) View Post

What sort of problems are you having with tmpgenc?


I was going to ask the same ...
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mickey797

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« Reply #256 on: April 22, 2008, 07:50:00 PM »

QUOTE(Utsi @ Mar 3 2008, 07:15 PM) View Post

HTA is new to me, but again, so was batch files. Looks like we did twice as much as we had to, but I had fun figuring it out anyway. I'm looking forward to seeing your solution.

I haven't actually used the output, my TMPGEnc is currently busy processing a large 1080p movie, so I'm not quite sure if the output is what we are looking for.

Installation:
 To make this batch file work, you need to have MKVInfo.exe, MP4Box.exe and MKVInfo.exe in your windows path. You already have theese if you've installed MKVExtractGUI and YAMB. The quickest (and dirtiest) way to achieve this, is to copy them into your system folder (in XP that is C:/WINDOWS/System32/).

Usage:
Copy/Paste the script into a txt file and save it as "ExtractMKVVideoAndConvertToMOV.bat". Place it where you'd like on your hard drive and double-click it. It will process all MKV's in current directory and all sub-folders. Make sure that you have enough free space on your hdd before executing the script.

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I just tried your Batch script. It is absolutely Awesome!! Works Perfect! Shortened the whole MKV -> h.264 -> Mp4 -> MOV procedure to a One Click Solution! You're brilliant man! I applaud you.
I don't see any reason why anyone shouldn't use your script and do it the manual way!

Thanks!
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mickey797

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« Reply #257 on: April 23, 2008, 06:51:00 PM »

Problem:

Chris' guide states that BOTH Audio & Video should show "DirectShow File Reader" in TMPGEnc Xpress once you load the MOV & MKV. I'm getting DirectShow for the Video File (MOV), but I'm getting "MPEG File Reader" for the Audio (MKV). Does anyone know why? And how I can correct it?

Thanks!
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mickey797

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« Reply #258 on: April 30, 2008, 06:02:00 AM »


Thanks Chris - After disabling the MPEG Plugin in TMPGEnc, I was able to get 'DirectShow file reader' show up under both Video and Audio. I've also set my Speed/PQ slider back to 75% for the next encode, so hopefully it won't take as long.

Did have one question for anyone who knows more about this Speed/PQ Slider under "OTHER" in the "FORMAT" tab in TMPGEnc Xpress. How much does this actually affect Picture Quality? My question stems from the fact that once we've defined Bit rate & resolution, which are the two prime factors affecting PQ - If let's say I were to slide the Slider more towards "Speed", and bring it down to 50% (Instead of default 75%), would it actually affect PQ at all?

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« Reply #259 on: May 01, 2008, 06:06:00 AM »

QUOTE(Utsi @ May 1 2008, 11:31 AM) View Post

If you want fast results, use CBR instead of VBR. This is if you want fast results but don't care about the output file size. Here's my how I did it:
1) In the "video" tab, leave the slider at 95%. Set the "video encode type" to "1 pass CBR". Set the video bitrate to twice the bitrate of the MKV source. !!!This is extremely important, otherwise you'll get utterly crappy results!!!
2) In the "other" tab, set performance slider to 2/5.

Then you're good to go. This should save you lots of time but will produce files that are a couple of gigs larger than if you had used the VBR method. This may or may not affect the quality. I, however, have not been able to tell the difference.


Very interesting. Well, I definately do not care about output file size. Couple of gigs more isn't an issue. I have an external hard drive connected to my XBOX 360 off which I'm running these videos. I do care about PQ though, and well, I guess the long encode times are somewhat annoying - which is why I'm looking at these options.

I probably should take one encode and use your settings to see the results. I've understood what you've explained and it doesn't seem difficult at all. Importantly, assuming this doesn't reduce PQ at all, does this reduce encode time? If yes, then this might be the way to go!!

Thanks!
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« Reply #260 on: May 07, 2008, 04:53:00 PM »

Sorry can't edit...
It seems like a bad 24p compatibility with my 1080i @ 60hz..  grr.gif
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« Reply #261 on: May 08, 2008, 10:22:00 AM »

QUOTE(Utsi @ May 1 2008, 06:31 AM) View Post

If you want fast results, use CBR instead of VBR. This is if you want fast results but don't care about the output file size. Here's my how I did it:
1) In the "video" tab, leave the slider at 95%. Set the "video encode type" to "1 pass CBR". Set the video bitrate to twice the bitrate of the MKV source. !!!This is extremely important, otherwise you'll get utterly crappy results!!!
2) In the "other" tab, set performance slider to 2/5.

Then you're good to go. This should save you lots of time but will produce files that are a couple of gigs larger than if you had used the VBR method. This may or may not affect the quality. I, however, have not been able to tell the difference.



Hi, I am going to use this method until I buy something like PopcornHour in the future, hopefully prices for these devices drop to less than $100 with time and competition....but using above method, I assume we also have to apply the PowerToy settings right, the one mentioned a few pages ago??? I think posted a screenshot with Jonnyhuges settings.

Thanks.
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« Reply #262 on: May 08, 2008, 12:04:00 PM »

QUOTE(chrislynch @ Apr 27 2008, 02:00 AM) View Post

I have tried to encode Walk Hard 4 times, and every time the audio and video got out of sync.  The source was in perfect condition.  Just the encode did not come out right.  However, I tried the same thing with Expression Encoder 2, and the same result.  I may have spoken too soon.  
You have to disable the MPEG built-in filter to TMPGEnc.  It's located in the apps Preferences.

I had problems with out of sync encodes from some sources but others(majority) came out perfect... Go figure.
As mentioned before in this forum, there are other methods(example tversity streaming) but require alot of cpu power and if for some miracle you make it work audio comes out 2.0 stereo.
I will stick to this method until I have some $$$ and buy the infamous popcorn hour which everybody here has been talking about.

cheers!

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Utsi

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« Reply #263 on: May 12, 2008, 03:46:00 AM »

QUOTE(xb360xls @ May 8 2008, 06:58 PM) View Post

Hi, I am going to use this method until I buy something like PopcornHour in the future, hopefully prices for these devices drop to less than $100 with time and competition....but using above method, I assume we also have to apply the PowerToy settings right, the one mentioned a few pages ago??? I think posted a screenshot with Jonnyhuges settings.

Thanks.


No, you should not use the PowerToy as it will sure as heck make the process take at least as long as with the VBR method  smile.gif
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« Reply #264 on: May 30, 2008, 05:24:00 PM »

Hello, first just want to say thanks to chris and everyone else who has helped in this thread.
I was using an old guide and thought the 42 second stutter was an error with my HDD or something.

So my question is, does anyone have any info on converting m2ts files? Whenever I import one into TMPGEnc it crashes. I have all the codecs properly installed and I have Vista. Any help is appreciated!
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« Reply #265 on: June 01, 2008, 12:12:00 PM »

QUOTE(hdDani @ May 31 2008, 12:00 AM) View Post

So my question is, does anyone have any info on converting m2ts files? Whenever I import one into TMPGEnc it crashes. I have all the codecs properly installed and I have Vista. Any help is appreciated!


Try to demux the .m2ts with tsMuxeR_1.7.3(B) and remux the .h264 track into an .mkv or .mov file.
It worked for me.
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« Reply #266 on: June 04, 2008, 12:07:00 PM »

I finally finished reading through all of the posts and followed Chris' method to a T, but I have run into a problem.
I did a sample encode and had no issues, but when I tried to do the full file, tmpgenc stops at 49% after analysing the last frame.
No error message, no nothing.  It just stops before encoding.  Anyone know what may be going on and how to fix it?
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« Reply #267 on: June 20, 2008, 06:27:00 PM »

I have been using this method for a while(about 60+ encodes) with no problems for 720p untill I tried a 1080p source. Right after reaching 50%, tmpenc closes suddenly(second pass).
Chris, have you experienced anything like this?

thanks!

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mickey797

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« Reply #268 on: June 23, 2008, 11:12:00 AM »

QUOTE(robert74 @ Jun 21 2008, 02:03 AM) View Post

I have been using this method for a while(about 60+ encodes) with no problems for 720p untill I tried a 1080p source. Right after reaching 50%, tmpenc closes suddenly(second pass).
Chris, have you experienced anything like this?

thanks!


Robert, I've used this method on 30+ 1080p sources (MKV) - I haven't experienced this at all. In fact, I haven't experienced any problem at all. I use Utsi's "ExtractMKVVideoAndConvertToMOV.bat" file to convert MKV's to MOV's and load the MOV for video, MKV for audio, and use Chris' 1080p template. Endless excellence.

Which version of TMPGEnc are you using?
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mickey797

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« Reply #269 on: June 25, 2008, 09:54:00 AM »

QUOTE(robert74 @ Jun 24 2008, 07:55 PM) View Post

Got it working! Source had wrong AR and made Tmpenc crash, corrected AR and now I just encoded my second 1080p source with no problems.


Excellent!!

This method has been working flawless since the MKV -> MOV inception.
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