Topic: NPD: Sky Isn't Falling for HD-DVD, Blu-ray Isn't Champ Yet (Read 325 times)

jesterrace777 · « **Reply #30 on:** January 29, 2008, 04:30:00 AM »

Says the box office sales. I agree that movie tastes are all subjective but the fact of the matter is that all of these releases did very well in movie theatres, so the potential market is definitely there. As mentioned above, I am not trying to say that HD-DVD is going to win, I just get frustrated when people keep making the claim that it's all over and not worth investing in the technology when there is still a decent amount of exclusive support. As for listing the Sci-Fi channel I was getting more at the relatively untapped market of TV series in high-def of which Sci-Fi has a number that are widely popular. I agree that the Sci-Fi Channel films themselves are pretty pathetic at best but the series in high-def would definitely be appealing to a lot of people especially on a player that is affordably priced. I recognize that you weren't necessarily saying it wasn't worth investing in the technology but people definitely are saying that it's all over before it's truly over and are trying to dissuade people from purchasing a very cost effective high def player. I bought an A3 last week for a whopping $135.67USD with tax and got 9 free movies in HD-DVD to boot. Can't go wrong with that kind of deal.

skarekr0 · « **Reply #31 on:** January 31, 2008, 10:28:00 PM »

Jesus christ you people are rich. I like how the same people saying that the blu-camp is spouting misinformation are the same people backing Hd-Dvd. Hd-Dvd being the camp that includes 360 add on sales and laptops that come with Hd-Dvd drives sales but refuse to include the ps3 in the sales, thus trying to gloat that they have the most hardware sales but wont touch the software figures with a pole which is a blatant indication that most who want or will watch blu-ray have a ps3. I know a number of people who actually bought the ps3 for nothing but blu-ray.

jesterrace777 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 03, 2008, 08:58:00 PM »

The NPD numbers don't include either of the gaming consoles in their stats but they do include things such as Blu-Ray standalones that are given away as freebees with high-def players. As for us all having a bunch of money, those of us who are HD-DVD supporters don't have tons of money, hence the reason why we are backing the format. I spent a whopping $135.67 with tax on my Toshiba A3 which came with 9 free HD-DVD titles. The Toshiba is also a solid standard DVD up-converter which in and of itself will set you back $60-$70 for a decent machine that doesn't come with a single movie. The bottom line is that HD-DVD is in a position right now where if you invest in the technology it's a win-win situation. If the format holds on then you have a solid DVD up-converter and a very cost effective high-def player. If the format tanks then you will have a bunch of high-def titles on clearance which you will be able to pick up for dirt cheap while waiting for Blu-Ray to become cost effective. You will also have a solid up-conversion player to play the dominant DVD format. The same cannot be said for Blu-Ray unless you have a PS3 and plan on getting a bunch of games for it. Incidentally for those of us "rich types" who don't mind backing a "dead format" here are a bunch of titles at amazon.com on sale for $15 each right now.

http://www.amazon.co..._rd_i=193642011

plutonium1977 · « **Reply #33 on:** February 06, 2008, 12:12:00 PM »

I have a GREAT Idea.... let one of them die peacefully (FAST!!) and lets go on with the other. They are both awesome and very good looking. There will be always ppl whining about that one is not so good as the other... but who cares? They are just great, but for now to expensieve for normal ppl to buy!!

So PLEASE BLU-RAY or HD-DVD, let one of u take the initiatieve and DIE!!

Amen

oow and don't die together

Bubbalynch · « **Reply #34 on:** February 06, 2008, 12:36:00 PM »

I'm still gonna try to buy that 360 HD-DVD add on for $129.99 for one reason.

KING KONG.

I SO want to watch that in Hi-Def.

I'm sure theres others but that is one movie I have really been wanting to watch on my 32'' HDTV. (wish it was 42") and now that the add on has just took a another price cut this seems to be a good time to do that.

I will say this... If BR is the only Hi-Def format left, I don't see myself watching much Hi-Def for A LONG time. I refuse to support Sony in any way. I have my reasons...

j666* · « **Reply #35 on:** February 06, 2008, 02:14:00 PM »

QUOTE(satviewer2000 @ Feb 6 2008, 07:53 AM)

Even if you believe that Sony will not win, I ask you, HOW CAN TOSHIBA WIN THIS WAR AT THIS POINT???

maybe cause the average consumer hasnt begun to show interst in any of the 2 and when they do they have a choice of a cheap complete format or an incomplete expensive format which will have revisions to confuse them even more

jesterrace777 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 06, 2008, 03:34:00 PM »

QUOTE(satviewer2000 @ Feb 6 2008, 06:53 AM)

I own the X360 HD-DVD addon, bought in the earlier days of the battle.

I am NOT a Blu-Ray "Fanboy", but neither am I an HD-DVD fanboy. In fact, I only own a single hi-def movie, "King Kong" which came with the player I bought.

No matter how much is considered propaganda for either side, I think people have to look at the facts here:

1. Sony OWNS a MAJOR movie studio ie. Columbia (a major strategy triumph, due to their loss of the VCR battle). Toshiba does not own any movie studio nor other media software company. Even if all the other movie companies suddenly decide to go back to HD-DVD (which won't happen), Columbia will NEVER go HD-DVD.

2. The fact is, there is only ONE major movie studio now producing HD-DVD's. Sure they have a large inventory of movies, but people don't want to buy a player that will only play old classics, they want to play the latest and greatest movies.

3. Many major electronic stores (at least in Canada) have discontinued or are basically liquidating HD-DVD players at below-cost prices (eg. Futureshop, BestBuy). It is unlikely they will restock when they run out. If you go to any of these stores, it is likely that the salesman will be pushing you toward the Blu-Ray players.

4. If you want to buy an HD-DVD stand-alone player, you'll have to buy a Toshiba, since they're the only company still making them (not counting the overpriced dual player by LG). Not that it's a bad player, just that there isn't any other choice.

5. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter which is the technologically superior or "better" format/player. As the old Betamax vs VHS battle showed, it wasn't which produced higher quality video, it was a number of other factors which were not originally forseen (eg. the eventual major use of the VCR became its ability to play pre-recorded movies).

Even if you believe that Sony will not win, I ask you, HOW CAN TOSHIBA WIN THIS WAR AT THIS POINT???

In regards to number 2: Your facts are incorrect. Universal AND Paramount are still HD-DVD exclusive and at least for the first quarter there are absolutely NO plans of either going Blu-Ray (proven by their statements and confirmed line-up of DVD and HD-DVD titles).

QUOTE(j666* @ Feb 6 2008, 10:50 PM)

maybe cause the average consumer hasnt begun to show interst in any of the 2 and when they do they have a choice of a cheap complete format or an incomplete expensive format which will have revisions to confuse them even more

VERY GOOD POINT. At this point less than 2% of the entire home video (hardware, movies or otherwise) purchases are high-def and this includes both formats combined. So the current number means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. The bottom line is that anything can happen when a player reaches that magical price-point of $100 or less. As it sits right now Toshiba is poised to make that happen at least a year or two before Blu-Ray will.

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