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[HackMy360]

well I signed the petition and posted links on my website to maybe get more people to sign... Hopefully it makes a difference but if it doesn't o well at least we tried..I think of this as the battle of the alamo...its a few of us against an army of Sony taking charge..HD DVD till the end

[QuiescentWonder]

Blah blah, who spends tons of money on an HDTV and is concerned with buying the cheapest HD format player anyway?

The price of both formats is going to drop dramatically before it's all eaten up by the general public anyway.

[ShaX5]

Well this does not really matter at this point, Blueray has pretty much already won and theres nothing anyone can do about it. Besides HD-DVD is inferior to Blueray. Why would anyone want HD-DVD to be the winner? But just incase I got an HD-DVD player/Blueray player so for me it does not matter because I could go both ways.

[HackMy360]

why are people so quick to say blu ray won... because most of the studios support it... when you combine all of the studios behind blu ray and the ones in favor of hd dvd blu ray only has about a 7% lead so HD dvd will still have about 43& of movies out there... this will not be over for a while im afraid

[HackMy360]

Another fact that really irritates Blu Ray fanboys:

According to IMDB these exclusive companies have the US distribution rights to the following number of movies:

Universal - 5331
Paramoun - 5753
Dreamworks - 95
Weinstein - 183

Total 11362 films

20th Century Fox - 755
SOny Pictures - 419
Disney Buena Vista - 727
MGM - 3639
Columbia/Tri Star - 4323
Warner Brothers - 4623

Total: 14783

Grand Total of all movies from these companies: 26145
11362/26145 = 43%

Meaning HD DVD has 43% of all catalog titles available for potential release on it's format. It's completely laughable to hear that BDA has 80% of the major studios. Who cares when Fox/Sony/Buena Vista/Disney all acount for less than 2000 movies. That's not even half of Universal's back catalog.

[QuiescentWonder]

QUOTE(HackMy360 @ Jan 24 2008, 04:21 AM)

why are people so quick to say blu ray won... because most of the studios support it... when you combine all of the studios behind blu ray and the ones in favor of hd dvd blu ray only has about a 7% lead so HD dvd will still have about 43& of movies out there... this will not be over for a while im afraid

Last I read checked... Blu-Ray has at least 75% of the market.

Plus, who in world says Blu-Ray "isn't finished". Talk about a loose interpretation. Windows isn't finished either, nor is your Xbox 360.

IMDB is entirely user submitted content.

Does someone actually have a good source for a list of films each company owns the rights to?

[HackMy360]

QUOTE(QuiescentWonder @ Jan 24 2008, 12:33 AM)

Last I read checked... Blu-Ray has at least 75% of the market.

Plus, who in world says Blu-Ray "isn't finished". Talk about a loose interpretation. Windows isn't finished either, nor is your Xbox 360.

IMDB is entirely user submitted content.

blu ray is not finished they are doing what MS did to the 360 adding on as they go and untill they finalize the specs it isn't finished HD DVD has all the features blu ray is just getting to implement in their players..

[0 Executer 0]

signed.

although i bought a ps3 yesterday...ill always keep my 360/hd player too

[Chancer]

QUOTE(troyBORG @ Jan 24 2008, 07:42 AM)

I'll quote what i said on the petition!

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Why make us pay like $600 for a Blu-Ray player and like $30 for the discs when we can get a HD-DVD player for like $150 and get the discs for the same price as normal DVDs with the awesome 1080p quality. Keep HD-DVD. Who cares about the won't scratch thing of Blu-Ray, just take better care of your discs people!

 Boy are you misinformed.

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its a few of us against an army of Sony taking charge

 So are you.

QUOTE(xcalixxryderx @ Jan 24 2008, 08:21 AM)

I signed it!! why would I want to buy into a format thats half finished? whats up with this profile 1.0 then 2.0 ect. crap if I want to have to upgrade all the time I'll play my movies on a computer.

 Picked up just a snippet of the info on the internet and have not really actually read and understood what that is about?

 I'm not bothering giving full reasons on this. There are enough instances of this being done to death before.
Suffice to say a couple of extra things.
If you sign any petition with no intention of buying either product or using either then, you are not really a supporter. Why sign? Because your friends did? Because you don't like Company X ?
 This is not a Monopoly either. Take a look at who is really involved on both sides. Also whoever wins will get support in the form of players made by all sides.
21K is a drop in the ocean.
The problem with petitions online is half the people who sign don't even know why they are signing or for what.
 Finally the petition looks like it was written by a 10 year old with no structured backed up reasoning. Simply blanket statements (some that are not correct if you do a side by side comparison)and hatred because Sony are Blu-Ray. To put in a phrase like "Warner Screwed Them All"
 If any exec read the wording and reason they would likely throw it in the bin

[mafiafan123]

http://www.petitiono...ed.cgi?HDVDeath

8608 Total Signatures agianst hd but looks like hd wins. but of course if someone wants one then someones gotta fight about the other. GO HD!

[bucko]

I signed it a few days ago

[ThaJuggla]

Well I havent logged in for a really long time, usually I just read the comments.  I do like the post the user above me wrote, very intelligent.  Also, I read someones post in the beginning who said something along the lines of, HDDVD is cheaper so that means its better than BluRay.  Well this for one would mean that free is better, which Sony's PSN is free vs Xbox Live which isn't.  Apparently this guy has no idea what he is talking about.  In reality, it would be smarter for everyone to just jump to BluRay and get all this crap over with.  But then again, you got a bunch of retards with 1080P 2000$+ HDTV's who bitch about more expensive movies.  

Honestly how stupid can you be?

I would hope that every one of them that thinks BluRay movies are so expensive, and that HD-DVD should win because of the price, should be somewhat of a penny pincher.  You need to go shop at thrift stores, stop paying for the fastest hi-speed internet you can afford, stop paying for Xbox Live, stop gaming, drive really small cars with the best gas mileage (plus get the car for dirt cheap)... the list goes on.  I can guarantee alot of people who want HDDVD to win because of the price are one of those people who buy the latest and greatest electronics just to say they have it.  Get a life.

[ThaCrip]

QUOTE(HackMy360 @ Jan 24 2008, 03:21 AM)

why are people so quick to say blu ray won... because most of the studios support it... when you combine all of the studios behind blu ray and the ones in favor of hd dvd blu ray only has about a 7% lead so HD dvd will still have about 43& of movies out there... this will not be over for a while im afraid

well it "used" to be that way... but a article i read on neowin.net about a few weeks ago tops said it was a 85/15  lead in favor of blu-ray studio support wise.... so if thats the case HD-DVD is in deep $hit .... cause based on this it's pretty clear (as of now) blu-ray is going to win unless something major happens.

but either way i wont be jumping up to buy either format anytime soon... i wont adopt either til the prices are pretty cheap.... under 100 dollars for a quality player AND movie prices are reasonable cause @ 30 dollars a movie that's just to expensive. at that price i wont even consider buy a movie unless it's sorta in the best of the best category anyways.... cause the fact (well close to fact ) is most movies aint worth 15 dollars TOPS... cause @ 15-20 dollars only the best movie would be worth buying.

and also, i still dont have a HDTV myself (well we do but it's in the other room and not my room so basically i have no real need for a HD player right now)

@ ThaJuggla ... i aint one of those people. i NEVER by anything super expensive just to brag!  i actually hate people that do that.... the ones who buy $hit just to brag more than anything else! ... the MOST i would ever consider paying for a TV is 2000 dollars TOPS TOPS although most likely if i do shell out for a quality HDTV it will be no more than the 1000 dollar area.... the 1000 dollar area i think offers most bang for the buck (give or take a little)... in general when i get electronics (computer hardware etc etc) i tend to get the fastest you can get BEFORE the price starts skyrocketing with minimal performance/feature differences. (aka bang for the buck )

and also, i think HD-DVD is generally "overall" better than blu-ray cause it's players are roughly half price and movie prices are about the same right? ... so WHY bother buying blu-ray? (cause if thats true... theres pretty much ZERO reason to by blu-ray over hd-dvd since overall there pretty much the same) ... cause from what i heard... technically blu-ray i heard has theoretically better sound (although i bet it wont be any noticeable difference) and it's got more space (which for movies is no real advantage overall) and they never have a set standard from the get go like hd-dvd did.

[Foe-hammer]

QUOTE(s2h @ Jan 24 2008, 12:18 AM)

Last week 93% of all HD players purchased were Blu-ray...

Nice references...

lets not forget the majority of those HD players are PS3's (a game system).  And even that being the case, the HD adoption is still VERY small.

That being said, i'm content with DVDs for the time being.  Maybe once the HD movies come down to DVD prices,  i'll start buying them.

[andyd]

Has petitions ever even worked?  Warner won't change their mind