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[AucardThe3rd]

i was wondering. now this may sound like a stupid question but, if hd dvd was to lose and blue ray won the war. for those of us that have the hd addon player for the 360. i was wondering if it is possible to get a firm ware updated for it so that it can play blue ray and hd dvd? or is the hardware is so different its not possible?


This post has been edited by AucardThe3rd: Jan 9 2008, 07:43 AM

[Devedander]

QUOTE(AucardThe3rd @ Jan 8 2008, 10:42 PM)

i was wondering. now this may sound like a stupid question but, if hd dvd was to lose and blue ray won the war. for those of us that have the hd addon player for the 360. i was wondering if it is possible to get a firm ware updated for it so that it can play blue ray and hd dvd? or is the hardware is so different its not possible?

No.

[BoNg420]

QUOTE(AucardThe3rd @ Jan 9 2008, 01:42 AM)

i was wondering. now this may sound like a stupid question but, if hd dvd was to lose and blue ray won the war. for those of us that have the hd addon player for the 360. i was wondering if it is possible to get a firm ware updated for it so that it can play blue ray and hd dvd? or is the hardware is so different its not possible?

umm no, its hardware related.

[englishnamja]

Wouldnt it be a good idea if Microsoft start releasing games on the HD-DVD and make it a propriatery drive for the xbox360 games, hence boosting HD-DVD owership/market percentage, and boosting security against copying/backup games on the current DVD drive (firmware mods).

I mean ps3 made it a proriatery drive for the ps3 games.. why shouldnt XBOX.....

xbox360 shipped 17.5 million consoles.. make the HD-DVD the main storage for the xbox360 and the will clearly be more HD-DVD machines in homes than Blueray machines....

[slipstream]

QUOTE(englishnamja @ Jan 9 2008, 08:13 AM)

Wouldnt it be a good idea if Microsoft start releasing games on the HD-DVD and make it a propriatery drive for the xbox360 games, hence boosting HD-DVD owership/market percentage, and boosting security against copying/backup games on the current DVD drive (firmware mods).

I mean ps3 made it a proriatery drive for the ps3 games.. why shouldnt XBOX.....

xbox360 shipped 17.5 million consoles.. make the HD-DVD the main storage for the xbox360 and the will clearly be more HD-DVD machines in homes than Blueray machines....

no! that wouldnt be a good idea! i already paid $400 for my 360, i wouldnt pay another $180. MS is smarter than that. thats just a dumb idea all around.

 I can only hope it was a joke...

[Zod5000]

QUOTE(AucardThe3rd @ Jan 9 2008, 07:42 AM)

i was wondering. now this may sound like a stupid question but, if hd dvd was to lose and blue ray won the war. for those of us that have the hd addon player for the 360. i was wondering if it is possible to get a firm ware updated for it so that it can play blue ray and hd dvd? or is the hardware is so different its not possible?

They use different lasers.  HD DVD is an advanced form the dvd laser (red laser technology), blu-ray is a different type of laser (blue laser).

[warmaster_670]

QUOTE(Zod5000 @ Jan 9 2008, 02:49 AM)

They use different lasers.  HD DVD is an advanced form the dvd laser (red laser technology), blu-ray is a different type of laser (blue laser).

no, they both use a blue laser

[Lordscr]

QUOTE(BasicAir @ Jan 9 2008, 02:11 AM)

I wonder if HD DVD losing the war (if it happens which seems imminent now) has an impact on console design for the NEXT Xbox. Surely MS has done much more than flirted with the idea of the next Xbox having a built-in HD DVD player. I'd imagine any plans of that are now completely gone.

I don't think any ideas that they may have had for the next xbox with an HD-DVD drive are compleatly out the window.
The war might look like it's over to any one of us that is out side of the industry. You never know, what if the DVD consortium decided that they were going to be pricks and revoked licensing for DVD play back in any future Blue-ray player, then all of a sudden a HD-DVD is the only place to get HD movies with DVD backward compatibility. Then HD-DVD would have to be in all the next gen systems.

Just speculation.

[scott076q]

Just logged in to post this.beat me to it.

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It looks like people who bought the HD DVD add on will be quite annoyed.

[dcuk]

QUOTE(englishnamja @ Jan 9 2008, 09:13 AM)

Wouldnt it be a good idea if Microsoft start releasing games on the HD-DVD and make it a propriatery drive for the xbox360 games, hence boosting HD-DVD owership/market percentage, and boosting security against copying/backup games on the current DVD drive (firmware mods).

I mean ps3 made it a proriatery drive for the ps3 games.. why shouldnt XBOX.....

xbox360 shipped 17.5 million consoles.. make the HD-DVD the main storage for the xbox360 and the will clearly be more HD-DVD machines in homes than Blueray machines....

Leading on from this... I blame M$ for HD-Dvd loosing the format war.
Think about it. If M$ had put a HD-Dvd drive in the xbox elite, loads more people would have bought it and that would have gone a long way to convincing Warner Studios to back HD-Dvd exclusively.
Instead M$ sat on the fence offering us a bloody external drive that looked horrible and tried to force online movie downloads down our throats.
So thanks M$ looks like a PS3 will be sitting under my tv fairly soon!

[Bubbalynch]

This crap is the reason I will not subscribe to the 'Hi-Def' revolution in regards to movies. Half of the shit I want to watch is on one format while the other half is on another. I'm not buying BOTH. Period. And as it stands, BOTH are still here. So I will continue to watch my standard definition DVD's.

This whole thing is a waste of the consumers time, and money. And whats so funny is that most of the consumers have already fallen for it. We knew there wouldn't be two formats forever. So wtf were ppl thinking buying into the hardware when there was still a chance of that particular format's failure???

Makes little sense to me.

Anyways, I'll have nothing to do with either format until one of the two is dead for good. If that takes years, so be it.  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

This post has been edited by Bubbalynch: Jan 9 2008, 01:53 PM

[warmaster_670]

QUOTE(Lordscr @ Jan 9 2008, 05:20 AM)

I don't think any ideas that they may have had for the next xbox with an HD-DVD drive are compleatly out the window.
The war might look like it's over to any one of us that is out side of the industry. You never know, what if the DVD consortium decided that they were going to be pricks and revoked licensing for DVD play back in any future Blue-ray player, then all of a sudden a HD-DVD is the only place to get HD movies with DVD backward compatibility. Then HD-DVD would have to be in all the next gen systems.

Just speculation.

ikve got $50 that says that wouldnt be possible, and if it was, that it would be illegal.

[eduardor2k]

old news...

[irnchriz]

I got my HD DVD add-on cheap.  i use it for playing dvd's and upscaling them on my LCD.  I have 3 HD DVD's  Batman Begins, Superman Returns and 300.

To be honest, If a company is able to get he download price right I would not buy another movie on disc.  So far I have ripped over 100 dvd's in my collection to Xvid+ac3 and I will be ripping the rest so that I can watch them over my home network.  Once I have them all on HDD I will box up my DVD's and pop them in the loft.

The thing that really pisses me off about blu-ray is that if it wins, we lose.  Sony can keep an inflated price for the players and also the PS3 and justify it by stating that their format was superior and won the war etc etc.

If it had gone the HD-DVD route more films would come out DVD/HD-DVD dual format and the prices would drop dramatically for the user.  Even Sony would have to bite the bullet and release on HD DVD.  The PS3 would drop in price as it would be a gaming machine and couldn't use the premium movie playing capabilities as an excuse for high cost.

On another note, region coding.  If bluray wins then the UK gets fucked over movie releases again.  Just now you can get films imported from the states on HD DVD with no region coding and they play fine in uk players.  All new BluRay movies are region coded and once again they movie studios can release sub standard versions of the movies months later in the uk at a higher price.

This post has been edited by irnchriz: Jan 9 2008, 03:53 PM

[Andronicus]

Well in the last two days, I have hears several people at work say "well I guess I have got to go buy a PS3 then".  Although this may not reduce sales of XB360, it will increase sales of PS3.  

I think MS needs to move on this sooner than later in order to "stem the tide".  How quick do you suppose MS could get a blue-ray add on into stores?