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luther349

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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2008, 04:36:00 PM »

regen coding lol.
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Madskilz182

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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2008, 04:54:00 PM »

What I don't get is why all the studios out there, save Universal and Paramount, say Blu-Ray is a superior format.  The only thing it has better is 20 more gigs of space, which isn't even needed for movies.  Blu-ray standards STILL aren't finished, the damn things are more likely to sustain damage from scratches, and almost all current bluray players can't upgrade to conform with new standards.  WTF?!  I'd still choose HDDVD even if the discs only held 20 gigs.  I'll keep buying hd dvds as long as I can.  Even if I'm forced to adopt blu ray later... if there is an HD DVD version i'm buying it instead.
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« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2008, 04:26:00 PM »

QUOTE(Norco @ Jan 5 2008, 04:18 PM) View Post

Are you kidding me, this isn't news, New Line has been basically BluRay exclusive for awhile now, they just didn't officially say anything. They released this press release simply to try to push their momentum harder, and uninformed consumers will think they have been doing the same thing as Warner Bros. when they haven't.


Agree. I guess this makes it offical though.
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« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2008, 04:46:00 PM »

QUOTE(Artanis @ Jan 5 2008, 11:53 PM) View Post

I dont understand how HDDVD players outsell bluray, yet bluray movies outsell HDDVD movies... yet the attach rate for movies to player is higher for HDDVD?

Is sony buying all the bluray movies up?


Toshiba doesn't count the PS3 consoles sold when counting the blu-ray players.
With the PS3 there are way more blu-ray players than HD DVD players (incl. Xbox360 addon)
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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2008, 04:55:00 PM »

pop.gif Im  happy with my dvdplayer  rolleyes.gif
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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2008, 05:40:00 PM »

QUOTE(luther349 @ Jan 5 2008, 11:36 PM) *

regen coding lol.


pmsl

seriously this whole move to blu ray is more likly to be down to the fact it has not been beaten by slysoft yet, I am sure if the public as a whole new that the formats used the same codecs and therefore could be argued to look identical (i doubt most care for audio, the 5,1 setup to dvd player ratio is probably under 5) and then found out that blu ray was region coded and hd-dvd wasnt would say, ohh hd-dvd please.

I think there are some big back handers doing the rounds, as blu ray is not a finnished specification right now so there is a very real posability that if you pick up a player now it wont work with the releases less than a month down the line, some of the new protected titles already take over a minuite to boot, and menus that are just lethargic. The public I am sure dont "want" this, they are not confused over the formats, they may not understand the difference but they dont see why they should upgrade, dvds look fine (not great but fine) on hdtvs, which are only really brought as they happen to be flat (thin) and look nice as well as being larger (screen size)than crts.

For a next gen format it is awful compared to dvd, sure dvd is only sd but the players are lightning quick to boot, the disks jump to life. It may not have always been like that but then people where used to rewinding their tape before playing it, these are films on a tiny disk with no moving parts, its like space age or something. These new films are still just films on a disk, how different cant they be? why are they so much slower to play? (i know why but the mass market wont) most non technical people i know thinks dvd means video on a disk (no matter what it is, vcd or bonus clips on their cd singles) and would swear blind the v in dvd was for video. The new formats need to really improve to get proper market penetration, as we as a whole expect more from new technology not less (in this instace waiting for stuff to start)


Perhaps toshiba should run some adverts on tv, "in this generation there are no boundaries"
and in the nicest possible way if they are European adverts have "2 for the price of 1* at Amazon.com, brought to you by the $       *not including postage" at the end.

then we will see what the (well European) market wants wink.gif
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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2008, 05:48:00 PM »

My only real problem with the format war is the fact that it does indeed seem Blu-ray is gaining ground and that really scares me. Let's look at history of what sony brought to the table:

Beta-max
UMD
Mini-discs
Super Audio Cd

And the list goes on I just can only remember those few. Point being is Sony is notorious for making crappy products. They always have been. People want to point and laugh at the microsoft RROD (Red Ring of Death for you little people) but lets get serious here folks who had a playstation 2 (Gen 1 -3) that for no apparent reason whatsoever just stopped working. MILLIONS upon MILLIONS. Sony admitted to the problem and it was fixed 4 generations later BUT whereas microsoft just increased the warranty Sony basically told you to jog on and deal with it.

I am not saying I am a fanboy for one thing or another but I do tend to know when I see superior products and that's usually ANYTHING that is not sony. And it not just their game systems either but look at their record of other stuff. Sony speakers blow, Sony Tv's are a joke, Sony headphones are awesome for a period of no more than 30 days, (Note personal Experience coming:) Playstation 1 breaks and Sony fails to honor warranty, Sony fails to honor almost all of its warranties unless you pay them. Oh, and lets not forget the travesty that is/was the sony walkmans. Dear god! You remember those things right? You just bought that brand new Metallica Black album and you were so excited, only to have that damned thing eat your tape after only a few plays. The discmans were even worse. Twice as expensive as any other cheap cd player on the market and made with worse parts that would not even play flawless cds sometimes.

Bottom line is in the long run Sony has become synonymous with cheap crappy products that break way faster than they should. They are known to make less than superior toys. Although I must admit that the mini-discs were innovative and a really good idea, just got destroyed due to the ipod/digital music players era. The only thing sony has successfully accomplished was a gaming system. And personally I really think that was a fluke. They happened to be in the right place at the right time. Sony had no competition. When PS1 hit the market they were up against the aged SNES, and the ridiculous hard to program for Saturn by sega and people were losing confidence in sega after the BS that was the 32X / Sega CD addons (Both of which were cool, but not what they promised to be). Sure Nintendo finally release the N64 to our shelves two years after the PS1 already had a foothold in a stagnate market. It simply couldn't complete with the FMV and bigger gaming experience that was the PS1. The PS2 was the same thing really. PS2 was fighting against the aging N64 (Cause let's face it, even though it was a good system most of the games showed their age and were not "Next-Gen" and it was Cartridge based) and the Exalted Dreamcast (The best gaming system in recent memory had it not been for the fact it simply had no third party support, consumer confidence had dropped significantly, and couldn't compete financially with the Juggernaut that is Sony) So since the inception of the Playstation idea sony has always banked on one idea: We have no competition.

The current gaming war is really not even a war. It's a fanboy marathon, and for good reason. This time around Sony really has competition. They have the powerhouse that is Microsoft. With their money and resources they can't be bullied out of the scene like poor Sega, and for the first time since the SNES Nintendo has really done something extraordinary. This time around they really have to show what they are made of, and at this time Sony has nothing going for it except for being the cheapest Blu-ray player on the market. The games at this point are a joke. (Just like almost all 1st gen sony games that have come out over the years.)

With these new companies coming over to Blu-ray no doubt sony is excited, but it just saddens me that companies are choosing a company with a track record of making bad products that just get replaced by better products. Some people might flame me for being a fanboy against sony, but everything I have just told you has come directly from news sources, wikipedia (Not reliable as a source I know but it works), and personal experiences with Sony products. So while I think that this format war is not over just yet, it seems that HD-DVD is indeed losing the battle. Which should bother you, because it could set a trend for further horrible products from Sony.
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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2008, 06:08:00 PM »

Im excited to see how the customers will react. As been said before in this thread, people arn't holding out cause of the format war. Most of them have already been burnt by DVD as I said in an earlier post. Really want to buy a movie? Is it really worth 2x the price for HD vs SD? I say, the regular customer would not find it worth the cost. So in the end it might turn out that these companies will be having a hard time to get back all that money spent on bribes.

And dont get me started on Blu-Ray stand-alone players. Do they really think the average Joe are willing to spend money on another version of there movie-player every year? It might end up like the Wii, buy it and forget it cause its useless.

Interesting indeed.
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2008, 06:54:00 PM »

Are we finally going to see an end to this damn format war? Finally!?
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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2008, 06:59:00 PM »

I'm seriously fucking sick of this.

This format war is not gaming news! It's just a completely pointless battle between two utterly useless camps which have next to no difference between one another!! I have a feeling blu-ray will end up being slightly more popular somehow, but that's still not bad news for the losing end, which will end up with piles of reduced priced movies.

I can't bloody stand seeing every second news story on kotaku or joystiq being about a format that is only slightly connected to gaming. We didn't hear all the crap about "guess who's stopped supporting vhs and is now supporting dvd which is awesome because ps2 has that" last gen did we?

I just wish one format would win soon, so we don't have to care anymore.

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ausmods

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« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2008, 07:22:00 PM »

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I'm seriously fucking sick of this.

This format war is not gaming news! It's just a completely pointless battle between two utterly useless camps which have next to no difference between one another!! I have a feeling blu-ray will end up being slightly more popular somehow, but that's still not bad news for the losing end, which will end up with piles of reduced priced movies.


Dude I agree 100% with you...
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« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2008, 07:25:00 PM »

QUOTE(ausmods @ Jan 5 2008, 09:22 PM) *

Dude I agree 100% with you...

its related to both the PS3 and the xbox 360, so it would make sense for it to be mentioned.

not that i wouldnt prefer game news, but its not completely unrelated.
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« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2008, 07:37:00 PM »

Well if Blu-Ray becomes the standard.... what are MS gonna do for the next gen console?  Go Blu-Ray?!  Got no problem with the blu, but how will this work with current Sony/MS relations?
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« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2008, 07:48:00 PM »

You people that are "sticking with HD-DVD" are not thinking and evidently aren't thinking ahead.  You are the same people who think 4.7Gb DVDs are good enough and we don't need more space on the dvd cause the 8Gb dvds are too expensive.  The only reason is it "more Expensive" is because you choose not to adopt it.  

Meanwhile you enjoy your state of the art T1...   I'll take my cable modem.

for those of you who don't understand the T1 comment.   Many companies out there still use T1s despite thier slow speeds when better technologies are there.
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« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2008, 08:18:00 PM »

Well I am glad that it is over, or at least almost settled!

I personally like BlueRay better, but then again my HD DVD is going through my 360 that doesn't have an HDMI port, so its going through the VGA on my TV. Even if it did I dont know if I would use it as I dont think the 360 pumps audio through the HDMI and my receiver's digital audio ports are all used up.

Most of the Movies I want are on BlueRay although I do have a few HD-DVD. 5th Element only came out on BlueRay so I was glad when I got my PS3. Maybe they will release STARSHIP TROOPERS on Blueray now, it's already released by Buenovista on BlueRay , but not in the states!

Well if MS still wanted to pursue HDDVD they could try to push it for archiving of data, but it might be too late for that as well. I have never seen an HDDVD-R but I have seen blank BlueRay's ( even in TARGET and thats scary)

For those of us that purchased an XBOX HD-DVD player, it still has uses. If you want to watch movies on your PC you can use the that way, It still can be used to RIP HD-DVD's so you can still watch them on your HTPC, and they will be dropping the price of all that old HDDVD stock out there when they have to convert those movies to BlueRay, so we will be able to pick up some movies on the cheap.

Just trying to look at the bright side, but lets all just be thankful that it's over, it went on for way too long!

Now the companies have to push out some good movie and TV series!!
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