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[zest]

Bay is just pissed coz he was looking forward towards the HD p0rn on Blueray.
Yeah mediawhore Bay would say "no thank you" if the movie company gave him a few million $ to do Transformers2... Yeah and Anna Nichole Married for love...

[DarkSky Forever]

Hey, look at it this way - the next movie won't be "Two Teenage Kids and a Love Story: A Transformers Movie."

[ConteZero76]

He'll probably go to Warner Bros, the only "neutral" corp to date.

As for the rest you should read your posts, just two days ago you were happy that "Transformers" was an HD-DVD exclusive and now the Hate Machine is already pushing against the traitor.

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Why is Bluray considered better? because it can hold 10 more gigs on a single layer? size shouldn't be an issue since HD-DVD can be triple layered.

Is Michael Bay a unknowledgeable fanboy?

HD-DVD standard define only single or double layer discs, that's it.
Experimental HD-DVDs are going up to 3 layers, but experimental BD-DVDs are now 200Gb on six layers (by TDK, proof: http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_...681/?ST=english ).
Let's focus on standards and not on wet dreams.

And, just FYI, adding a layer shift up costs enough to defeat any HD-DVD price advantage.

This post has been edited by ConteZero76: Aug 21 2007, 09:21 PM

[XDelusion]

Who cares about Michael Bay? His movies are dull, un-imaginitive, and predictable, not to mention that he can't even be faithful to a franchise, but rather has to turn it into yet another 21st century army man action film.

 If you want to ask someone's opinion, ask David Cronenburg, or John Carpenter, someone who actually knows a thing or two about movies, not the poster child for hit movies that are really only there to keep us dumbed down and adjusted to watered down, un-thought provoking plots, or movies that like Pearl Harbor don't even get onto the history and rather wrap it with a lame story. They could have at least mentioned how we knew that it was going to happen, but allowed it to happen so that America would have reason to enter the war...

...sound familiar? Then they could have shown how the US gets money from a private coporation known as the Federal Reserve, and how we never are able to pay back that funny money, and how every human being born in this country is merely live stock, merely collateral towards the state's ever growing debt towards the consolidated world banks.

 History class certainly isn't teaching anyone anything, it is good to see a handful of directors actually take the time to try to communicate these evils, but definatly not Michael Bay. He's a yes man through and through...

...he should run for president some day.

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[turk3y]

might as well argue about the lack of releases on vcd laser disk then, probably as many old players out there as hd-dvd or blu-ray players in reality, its such a small market its not worth sneezing over and he would know that.

[jagogo]

[quote name='mrjkwik' date='Aug 21 2007, 07:25 PM' post='4088768']
in otherwords, he wants to get paid from blu ray sales.  
 
exactly he's mad because he wont get as much money as he would have if they would've released it on both formats. id be pissed too though because more is always better

[TexT]

QUOTE(ConteZero76 @ Aug 21 2007, 09:02 PM)

He'll probably go to Warner Bros, the only "neutral" corp to date.

As for the rest you should read your posts, just two days ago you were happy that "Transformers" was an HD-DVD exclusive and now the Hate Machine is already pushing against the traitor.
HD-DVD standard define only single or double layer discs, that's it.
Experimental HD-DVDs are going up to 3 layers, but experimental BD-DVDs are now 200Gb on six layers (by TDK, proof: http://techon.nikkei...681/?ST=english ).
Let's focus on standards and not on wet dreams.

And, just FYI, adding a layer shift up costs enough to defeat any HD-DVD price advantage.

http://www.dvdtown.c...ithnewdisc/4260

LOL

[ConteZero76]

QUOTE(TexT @ Aug 21 2007, 10:09 PM)

http://www.dvdtown.com/news/hddvdgoesbeyon...ithnewdisc/4260

LOL

Great news, they used a modified reader (standard HD-DVD readers are made to support only one or two layers) and expanded data for each layer (so it isn't a HD-DVD standard) from 15 to 17 GB.
As I've told you TDK showed a similar thing, with SIX layers, each 33.3 Gb (grand total: 200GB), so you're not telling anything new right now... from a strictly tech view your 51Gb HD-DVD is obsolete aswell.
As the things are (and probably will stay for the next years) HD-DVD are only one or two 15 Gb layer discs while BD-DVD are only one or two 25 Gb layer discs.

Extended formats, multiple layers, freezing fire and melting ice are things you can expect, but nothing will move the market away from the actual (15/30 vs 25/50) specs.

The reason ?

What you think would happen if a current HD-DVD (or BD-DVD) should be found "unable" to use an "extended" disc ?
It's unlikely that someone will try this (well, Toshiba should as a "last resort", but a triple layer HD-DVD would be expensive enough to be just unworthy).

This post has been edited by ConteZero76: Aug 21 2007, 10:23 PM

[epsilon72]

QUOTE(Antdog24 @ Aug 21 2007, 10:03 AM)

cool, kill two birds with one stone.  Support HD-DVD and get a better director for Transformers 2 its a win-win situation if you ask me.  

Sounds good to me, except for the part where I don't have an HD-DVD player yet....

(Michael Bay sucks at directing)

QUOTE(ConteZero76 @ Aug 21 2007, 02:17 PM)

What you think would happen if a current HD-DVD (or BD-DVD) should be found "unable" to use an "extended" disc ?

That is what I'm wondering as well ---- HD-DVD supporters keep saying "HD-DVD holds just as much as blu-ray when it has 3 layers!!", but a 3 layer disc won't be any good if current players don't support them.

[ConteZero76]

QUOTE(epsilon72 @ Aug 21 2007, 10:19 PM)

That is what I'm wondering as well ---- HD-DVD supporters keep saying "HD-DVD holds just as much as blu-ray when it has 3 layers!!", but a 3 layer disc won't be any good if current players don't support them.

It's not just as adding an extra layer (this would be the easy part) it's crunching more data on a single layer, 17Gb instead of 15Gb (that could be tricky).
And, at the end of the day you'll get a three layer HD-DVD holding 51 Gb with a manufacturing cost that will probably beat a two layer BD-DVD wich, in turn, hold 50 Gb with standard technology.

...unworthy...

[HSDEMONZ]

Extra layers on future Blu-Ray and HD disks would be nice.. and we'll probably see them.. for home/PC/Data use.. but as a continuation of the existing movie standards will not work.. and we probably won't see it anytime soon.

HD and BLU Ray are having a hard enough time trying to attract people to even buy a player, much less the movies on these formats. Adding more layers will kill any growth they had pissing off the consumers who after a year or two with these formats now have junk players that can't read the new format variants.

The movie studios when originally approached by the 2 camps were made certain guarantees as to the format, it's longevity, and that the standard would remain largely unaltered to maximize the market potential over the lifetime of the format.

Personally, I welcome 51-200Gb disks. Not for my movies necessarily though.

[ir0nw0lf]

I guess I can understand his point of view, but he didn't need to go all 5-year old whiney school boy over it.

[majzor]

Good, i don`t like transformers anyway!  

[kawasabi]

He's doing me a favor by not making Transformers 2.
Lame excuse for a grown man is what he is.

[EvilWays]

Standard DVDs FTW