Topic: DreamWorks Animation, Paramount choose HD DVD (Read 231 times)

Chancer · « **Reply #30 on:** August 21, 2007, 03:09:00 AM »

QUOTE(TexT @ Aug 20 2007, 11:15 PM)

From what I've overheard at work the past few days, this is the beginning of a studio exodus that will ultimately leave Sony/Columbia/Tri-Star holding Blu-Ray in the same light as UMD. Shareholders are tired of this gray area that everything has been staggering in and new partnerships are forming and decisions are being made to push consumers in one direction or the other. Sadly, much like the days of Betamax, HD-DVD will emerge the winner.

The tides have turned, the powers that be have decided what will happen and there's nothing snivelling fanboys or Sony will be able to do about it. Howard Stringer will be the fall guy for the failure of Blu-Ray and the PS3 trojan horse tactic. Mark my words, disbelievers...or don't - because I'll just bump this when it happens.

Rumour & Gossip. Sounds like the wishful thinking of a Blu-Ray hater to me. Make sure you bump it.
I still don't understand all this

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snivelling fanboys or Sony

childish stuff. It makes your statement sound less credible. You need a more definite source than your works canteen before I buy it.
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seems it is not disgruntled shareholders talking and sick of this "Grey area". Seems a large financial consideration (Bribe) was involved.

This post has been edited by Chancer: Aug 21 2007, 12:23 PM

Fyb3roptik · « **Reply #31 on:** August 21, 2007, 05:49:00 AM »

QUOTE(Chancer @ Aug 21 2007, 04:09 AM)

Seems a large financial consideration (Bribe) was involved.

What like the bribe Sony gave Blockbuster?

Chancer · « **Reply #32 on:** August 21, 2007, 06:53:00 AM »

QUOTE(Fyb3roptik @ Aug 21 2007, 01:25 PM)

What like the bribe Sony gave Blockbuster?

And the article where it says this is fact is?

ekruob · « **Reply #33 on:** August 23, 2007, 07:22:00 AM »

QUOTE(Fyb3roptik @ Aug 21 2007, 10:25 PM)

What like the bribe Sony gave Blockbuster?

It would be naive in the extreme for anyone to assume that several Blu-ray studios are not receiving large multi-hundred-million dollar kickbacks from the BDA.

These companies aren't the Salvos ;-)

Paramount pointed out clearly that Blu-ray Discs cost significantly more to manufacture (factoring in the setup of new production lines, not just the discs themselves).

So it is obvious to everyone that:

Paramount gets money + increased profit.

Whereas the Blu-ray studios (collectively) get money but no increased profits - so the consumer will have to pay the difference in the future.

For years Toshiba has explained how HD DVD media manufacturing costs are cheaper than for Blu-ray...

For years Toshiba has explained how HD DVD player manufacturing costs are cheaper than for Blu-ray...

Studios are starting to see the truth to these facts and to see through the Blu-ray propaganda and FUD.

This post has been edited by ekruob: Aug 23 2007, 02:32 PM

ekruob · « **Reply #34 on:** August 23, 2007, 08:07:00 AM »

'GASP....a company was paid money in order to do something, why that's...that's just....common sense!'

Chancer · « **Reply #35 on:** August 23, 2007, 07:36:00 AM »

QUOTE(ekruob @ Aug 23 2007, 02:22 PM)

It would be naive in the extreme for anyone to assume that several Blu-ray studios are not receiving large

Studios are starting to see the truth to these facts and to see through the Blu-ray propaganda and FUD.

I have seen no statement like the one from Paramount confirming this. Till confirmed, it is just speculation which fits in nicely if you are a supporter of HD-DVD

Studios? This is one move. Other studios are not jumping on the bandwagon. See http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=618342

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For years Toshiba has explained how HD DVD media manufacturing costs are cheaper than for Blu-ray...

Toshiba care about cost above all else. Proof of that came about when they began outsourcing TV design and manufacture to Vestel in Turkey. They dropped the quality standard in favour of saving money. Which ever format wins manufacturing costs will drop over time.

ekruob · « **Reply #36 on:** August 23, 2007, 06:05:00 PM »

QUOTE(Chancer @ Aug 24 2007, 12:12 AM)

I have seen no statement like the one from Paramount confirming this. Till confirmed, it is just speculation which fits in nicely if you are a supporter of HD-DVD

All companies get paid to do stuff - that's how capitalism operates. Are you even suggesting that companies only pay each other if they announce it to the press?!

That would seem a little silly.

ekruob · « **Reply #37 on:** August 23, 2007, 06:21:00 PM »

QUOTE(Chancer @ Aug 24 2007, 12:12 AM)

Toshiba care about cost above all else.

So, it would seem, do consumers!

Especially given that the United States is heading towards a gloomy economic depression (not recession, a depression). So, although for consumers cost has always been a main factor in all retail purchases - it will now definitely be the number one factor.

As for the Studios - their cost benefits are directly to do with the media manufacturing costs. And as any university business graduate knows - the easiest way to increase profits is to cut costs (rule #0000001 of business).

It's all about the money really and considering the fact that to upgrade a DVD production plant to produce Blu-Ray discs will cost a studio 2 million USD just to have it setup but only about 150,000 USD for a studio to upgrade their DVD production plants to HD DVD also just to have it setup.

So if you were a studio exec would you spend 2 million instead of $150,000 just to get an extra 20gb of space over HD DVD's 30gb? 2 million is still a lot of money and if you want to increase your profit margin and therefore be able to produce more then you need to go with the cheaper option. This has been said by Universal and now its being heard through Paramount's decision to exclusively back HD DVD. As Paramount's CTO has said, space is a factor but not the ultimate deciding factor between HD DVD & Blu-Ray.

Most of the movies being released, even on DVD, are multi disc and no one has complained about it. Though it does fall on a movie-by-movie basis but since most of Paramount's movies fit into the 2.25 hrs or less category then why whinge if you can't fit all the features onto 1 30gb disc? There's no overriding need to have everything on 1 disc, plus don't the words 'Collector's Edition' mean anything anymore?

You can comfortably fit a movie onto a 30gb disc as it depends on how effective the compression is and therefore having the extra 20gb is nice but overrated.

This post has been edited by ekruob: Aug 24 2007, 01:22 AM

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