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[twistedsymphony]

First of all blackchild1101 MS has said that NO YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO BUY NEW XBOX GAMES

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We're not sure where this came from, and is incorrect. At launch, Xbox 360 will be backward compatible with the top Xbox games. Our goal is to have every Xbox game work on Xbox 360. You will NOT need to purchase a new 'version' -- your original games will work on Xbox 360.

http://forums.xbox.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=12646697

Second of all MS said they would have Xbox360 GAMES playable at E3 which they do. IIRC NO console that has beenl 6 months away from completion has EVER used final hardware to run demos at conferences. Seriously WHO CARES if it's not actual hardware yet. I personally think it's MORE impressive that these amazing games are running on a fraction of the final system's performance power.

Thirdly Sony Said that the "tech demos" were real time, which they were and they also said that NONE of the "game demos" were done in real time. There is a difference: rubber ducky bath tub, cannon ball demo, etc were real time... Killzone, VGT, etc. were just CG game teasers. (most devs haven't had Dev kits long enough yet to make anything worth showing for conference footage)

Finally Nintendo said that they DO have HD support, I don't know where you got the impression that they'll require a DVD adapter but they said nothing about that AT ALL, they also only listed their 1st party franchises that would make it to the system. As for 3rd party support, based on what individual 3rd parties have actually said it looks to be much stronger than what the GC got for support. Finally they haven't really released ANYTHING; hardware specs, controller design, game demos or even CG teasers. The revolutionary aspect of their console is supposedly the new controller which they haven't yet unveiled. Anyone who thinks they can pass judgment with the little amount of info Nintendo gave is just being pig headed and was probably going to have the same opinions about the Revolution no matter what was announced.

NumberOneRB you've got it backwards mate. The Killzone footage is what the developers "would like the game to look like" so it's essentially a CONCEPT of what they HOPE the game will look and feel like.

as for it actually running on a PS3:

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Epic and EA presentations were the only third party portions actually running on the PS3 in real-time

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/615/615152p1.html

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in reference to the sony conference being real timeAnd what about the game footage clips?
Phil Harrison: Not all of that - in fact, none of it was real-time

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=59243

An IGN article about Killzone: http://ps3.ign.com/a...4/614924p1.html
An IGN interview with one of the people behind the Killzone footage: http://ps3.ign.com/a...6/616591p1.html

Ok so pretty much everyone at Sony questioned about killzone being actual game play or at least rendered in real time as either dodged the question or outright said "no this is not real time"

I'm tired of people saying this pre-rendered GC MOVIES are realtime gameplay without ever having read anything on it at all.

[blackchild1101]

QUOTE(Wicked_Vengence @ May 20 2005, 03:02 AM)

I really have to ask, Blackchild, what article you found that says you have to repurchase your original xbox games...  I've spent all day looking for whatever article it was the must have given you this idea....  Can't find it.  So please, post a link for us to show that MS lied (this particular time, atleast).

[Carlo210]

 SONY WANTS TO BE LIKE MS BUT THEY CANT DO IT!
HAW HAW!


Sorry for the caps. Sony is teh n00bstar.

I'm jsut joking around, just tells to show, or shows to tell...  How much I dislike sony.

[twistedsymphony]