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ferrari_rulz_02

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« Reply #120 on: February 26, 2005, 05:41:00 AM »
QUOTE(Gumba @ Feb 26 2005, 10:25 PM)
We *know* they'll get banned for swapping HDs.

Marriage Theory is over 3 months old now, and its pretty much rock solid (hasn't changed in two months or so)
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well that was to test whether they are checking for UPGRADED drives, and not swapped normal ones.

coz think about it. your virgin xbox stuff up one day,a nd you send it back. tehy swap teh hdd,a nd giev it back to you. so by rights, you shoudl now get banned. but you havent done anything wrong....
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« Reply #121 on: February 26, 2005, 07:32:00 AM »
QUOTE(LooGieLV @ Feb 25 2005, 07:30 AM)
well, the only way we can know is to have someone sign onto live with either a virgin upgraded HDD, or a stock HDD, and then (after many hours of Halo 2:)) switch to another STOCK (and only stock) HDD, and if they get banned, it's marriage, if not, it's upgraded HDD's. But again, I stress that i believe MS is not even checking HDD's until the GT is flagged as troublesome, maybe a modified xbox error, or negative feedback or anything, then they scan the HDD.

But I digress... who wants to switch to a stock HD just to get banned? kinda a lose lose....LOSE situation...naaamean? biggrin.gif
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It's not true that HD's are checked only if the GT is flagged. I had a clean GT when I got banned for upgraded HD, and I hadn't connected with the chip on.

QUOTE(ferrari_rulz_02)
coz think about it. your virgin xbox stuff up one day,a nd you send it back. tehy swap teh hdd,a nd giev it back to you. so by rights, you shoudl now get banned. but you havent done anything wrong....


So M$ would be able create this elaborate banning system but wouldn't be able to tie it in with the system used in their repair centres?
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Cr8Zy M0DdEr

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« Reply #122 on: February 26, 2005, 09:23:00 AM »
but dont you NOT get banned if you sign up for a new account AFTER the hard drive swap???
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« Reply #123 on: February 26, 2005, 10:06:00 AM »
QUOTE(Cr8Zy M0DdEr @ Feb 26 2005, 03:22 PM)
but dont you NOT get banned if you sign up for a new account AFTER the hard drive swap???
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This is a different point to the one I was referring to. LooGieLV was stating that upgraded HD's don't get detected via marriage theory unless the GT is already flagged. This is incorrect as my HD upgrade was detected when I had a clean GT.

Signing up for a new GT prevents M$ checking your HD size/type when you login.
You still need a new EEPROM as well.
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« Reply #124 on: February 26, 2005, 11:31:00 PM »
Ok, here's my story. I've had my stock hard drive on Live before (Before I installed my chip), I eventually modded my box in October of 2003. I kept my hard drive in for I don't know how long. Probably 6 months or so. I put in a 120GB Seagate hard drive and used it (locked with modchip off) on Live a few times. I remember getting banned more than a few times, I would just buy a new eeprom and be on my way. Several different gamertags too. I also remember playing Live in the summer a few times. Then I needed a bigger hard drive, so I switched to this 250GB Maxtor on August 31st, 2004. I don't think I used Live because I soon found out that this drive wasn't lockable. I still have this unlockable drive in here and I have the Xecuter 4983 bios. I just purchased MVP Baseball 2005 and I wanted to play online so bad, but I obviously can't because I have a hard drive that cannot be locked. I bought a stock hard drive off the BST. So I just said fuck it and decided to go on Live with my chip on and play, I'd just buy a new eeprom and switch the hard drive at the same time once they ban me in a few days anyway. I switched to a non-Live blocking bios and tried to sign in. But it gave me the usual error, so I guess my eeprom (and hard drive) were already banned. So, I have 2 eeproms just to be safe and I figured I will replace the hard drive (strictly for Live), the eeprom and register a new gamertag at the same time. This should work, right?
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« Reply #125 on: February 27, 2005, 12:57:00 AM »
banned in november.

new hdd, new gamertag, new eeprom.  back on for now.
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« Reply #126 on: February 27, 2005, 08:07:00 AM »
QUOTE(Cr8Zy M0DdEr @ Feb 27 2005, 02:22 AM)
but dont you NOT get banned if you sign up for a new account AFTER the hard drive swap???
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Its not "a new account", its "the first time you connect to xbox live with that xbox"

If you just sign up for a new account, and you've already connected to XBL with that box, then you'll still get banned.
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« Reply #127 on: February 28, 2005, 01:22:00 AM »
QUOTE(Gumba @ Feb 28 2005, 01:06 AM)
Its not "a new account", its "the first time you connect to xbox live with that xbox"

If you just sign up for a new account, and you've already connected to XBL with that box, then you'll still get banned.
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i think what your trying to say is that what gamertag you use to connect to xbl doesnt matter. so if you conenct to xbl, then sold the box to someone else, they upgraded the hdd, and then went on xbl, they would get banned
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« Reply #128 on: February 28, 2005, 10:53:00 AM »
QUOTE(ferrari_rulz_02 @ Feb 28 2005, 06:21 PM)
i think what your trying to say is that what gamertag you use to connect to xbl doesnt matter. so if you conenct to xbl, then sold the box to someone else, they upgraded the hdd, and then went on xbl, they would get banned
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Yes,

Gamertags only matter in relation to flagged gamertags getting unbanned xboxes banned because of their upgraded HDs.

You can have a flagged gameratag which works fine on your stock xbox, then take it around to a friends xbox, which is totally unbanned because he's been careful, unlike you, and then load your gamertag on his box and connect... and then get his box banned to.

I'm sure he won't be amused wink.gif
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« Reply #129 on: March 01, 2005, 04:13:00 AM »
QUOTE(Gumba @ Mar 1 2005, 03:52 AM)
Yes,

Gamertags only matter in relation to flagged gamertags getting unbanned xboxes banned because of their upgraded HDs.

You can have a flagged gameratag which works fine on your stock xbox, then take it around to a friends xbox, which is totally unbanned because he's been careful, unlike you, and then load your gamertag on his box and connect... and then get his box banned to.

I'm sure he won't be amused wink.gif
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ok, but that raises a good point. if they can detect an upgraded hdd, that hasnt gone on live with any other hdd, why dont they ban that xbox any way? why do they need a flagged gt to access live on it to ban it? why dont they check all xbox's?
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« Reply #130 on: March 01, 2005, 08:13:00 AM »
QUOTE(ferrari_rulz_02 @ Mar 1 2005, 10:12 AM)
ok, but that raises a good point. if they can detect an upgraded hdd, that hasnt gone on live with any other hdd, why dont they ban that xbox any way? why do they need a flagged gt to access live on it to ban it? why dont they check all xbox's?
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It would mean longer sign-in times for everyone using live, rather than just for those with flagged GTs.
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« Reply #131 on: March 01, 2005, 11:50:00 AM »
What is BST and how would I go about buying an EEPROM from them?
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« Reply #132 on: March 02, 2005, 02:23:00 AM »
QUOTE(adam9986 @ Mar 2 2005, 04:49 AM)
What is BST and how would I go about buying an EEPROM from them?
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The Buy/Sell/Trade forum. where you can buy and sell stuff from fellow xbox-sceners
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« Reply #133 on: March 02, 2005, 08:19:00 AM »
I was banned from live because i had a larger hard drive, I got another eeprom and I loaded that so now all I need to do is get another hard drive and a new gamer tag and I should be fine? Does it matter that i already loaded the new eeprom before I add the new hard drive? thanks
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« Reply #134 on: March 02, 2005, 08:27:00 AM »
QUOTE(adam9986 @ Mar 1 2005, 05:49 PM)
What is BST and how would I go about buying an EEPROM from them?
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They Buy/Sell area on these forums:
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showforum=12

I have bought EEPROMs from Zodiiak and Benbon, whom I found to be good sellers.
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