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[Angerwound]

QUOTE (Samiad @ Nov 24 2004, 10:28 AM)

Recently, this happened to me : I have an Xbox with 120GB drive and had a Live account (after I installed my 120GB installed).  My housemate got my Xbox banned by signing in with the modchip on.  I understand the EEPROM and hard drive were banned. I replaced the EEPROM and kept the same hard drive and was banned the next day again.  I believe this is because I have used a (now) banned hard drive. Therefore I assume that once banned, you CANNOT use the same hard drive on ANY Xbox for Xbox Live - is this correct?  Has anyone been able to put a banned hard drive back on Xbox Live?  I doubt it.

They are not marking the HDD. I have been banned around 26 times on this hard drive as well as had two accounts terminated. All I did was clean the hard drive, replace the eeprom, and sign up for a new XBL account and I've been playing Halo 2 for almost 2 weeks now on live(Mod's on and Off).

BTW, if they are in fact scanning anything on the drive, they are not scanning the gamesave DIR's. I have a couple gamesave exploits installed while I use H2 on live, no bans.

[mc_365]

is the new gamertag always necessary?  Cuase I dont want to spend $50 bucks plus $10 for eeprom if I can just spend $10.  For $60 I would probably just get a re-furb box for $99 or a xmas bundle and sell the games.

[mc_365]

Anger since you have done alot of testing what do you think MS is using to ID modded boxes, besides chip being on and cheating?  Cuase I've done niether and I am banned after doin H2 update and playing with my 200gig HD in.  What pisses me off most is that I formated my E: to be sure and lost most of my game saves cuase Craxtion GameSave manager is still buggy.

Could it be a fake slayers disk or something in the HD table that dosent get formated?

[newatmods]

All I know I haven't been banned yet......but I'm also not on live that much either .....There was about a 6 month window that I didn't go online then when I did v2.0 came out.......Games that support live probably had the live 2.0 update in them which from what I know if the box is connect it will sometimes send packets out for like friends list and stuff....(that's what i heard at least).......what models of hd are people using out there.... I have a samsung120 in mine.......that also might be a factor.....

[BuBBeR]

One question!
How can i see the hddkey of the unbaned eeprom?
I did the steps in page 1 anda the hdd key is the same....
is there a program that can do it??
please felas!
Thanks for the attention!

[Hiram]

QUOTE (BuBBeR @ Nov 25 2004, 12:17 AM)

One question! How can i see the hddkey of the unbaned eeprom? I did the steps in page 1 anda the hdd key is the same.... is there a program that can do it?? please felas! Thanks for the attention!

You can use LiveInfo to see the info on your PC.

Though, for me, just changing the HD key didn't work. I had to load the whole eeprom.

[dalime]

Hiram,
I had the exact same thing happen.  Angerwound suggested changing the HDD key and the mac address, but that didn't work either.  No mod error but got the connection error again.  I wound up replacing the whole eeprom and was banned again in less than 24 hrs.  I ran a low level format last night and am going to try again with my last eeprom.  Will let you guys know if it works.

[Duff Man]

this is a little off topic but lets say i got a excuter2 intalled but did not get a on/off swtich intalled at the same time but i was jst wondering if u can get a on/off switch intalled after.
thanks

[Hiram]

QUOTE (dalime @ Nov 25 2004, 01:13 AM)

Hiram, I had the exact same thing happen.  Angerwound suggested changing the HDD key and the mac address, but that didn't work either.  No mod error but got the connection error again.  I wound up replacing the whole eeprom and was banned again in less than 24 hrs.  I ran a low level format last night and am going to try again with my last eeprom.  Will let you guys know if it works.

Well, I followed all of Angerwound's instructions and have been banned again, in less than 48 hours.

I had C and E completely clean and have been running only the retail bios and MS dash since I got back on with a new GamerTag.

So now I am completely stumped!

[gerzand]

QUOTE (Hiram @ Nov 25 2004, 06:38 PM)

Well, I followed all of Angerwound's instructions and have been banned again, in less than 48 hours. I had C and E completely clean and have been running only the retail bios and MS dash since I got back on with a new GamerTag. So now I am completely stumped!

Thats where this strategy comes into play. MS cant track your xbox if the partition table is clean and you have a new eeprom and POSSIBLY only a recovered gamertag (testing in progress)  

Check out this newest research that works. End of story.

http://forums.xbox-s...ic=310240&st=15

[-Gadget-]

QUOTE (rallycobra @ Nov 25 2004, 09:44 PM)

Once a physical hard drive is banned, MS records the serial number most likely, and marries it to an eeprom.

did u not even read what gerzand wrote !!!
or even bother going to the link

! no wunder people are still getting banned ..
and what they keep on posting on the front page does NOT help! ..

Mick ..

[gerzand]

QUOTE (rallycobra @ Nov 25 2004, 08:44 PM)

Angerwound instructions do not work, and this thread should be locked or erased. I used a new eeprom, went back to a previously banned stock hard drive that was erased and returned to original state, and was rebanned within 24 hours. Once a physical hard drive is banned, MS records the serial number most likely, and marries it to an eeprom. To get unbanned, you need a new eeprom, and a new physical drive. End of Story. Additionally, if you use a large hard drive, there is good evidence that a previously banned gamertag gets extra hard drive scanning. When they do that, it's probably not hard for them to figure out that you are using a big drive, and you will get banned. See the above post.

You are obviosly confused.

Hard drives that are clean on the C & E partitions are fine, even if they are over stock size.

This is why you configure your bios to boot from F if you have a larger than the stock 8gb Western Digital hard drive (Seagate stock 10gb and others can have an F only readable by Evox and other homebrew software), and for people that want to put software on their C & E Western Digital 8gb hard drives, there is no guarentee if you will get your HDD-Key banned. (BTW, whole eeproms only get banned if you go online with the chip turned on)

[FPS]

Last time I was banned was during xbox live launch date. I was a beta tester and was banned 1st day xbox live was released.

I have a 160g locked hdd on a v1.0 xbox using my orginal gt.
Using my x-ecuter 2.3 pro using custom 4981.67 custom bios booting from f drive.
Drive C & E are clean just in case.

I was previusly using bios 4983.67 booting from c drive. But I wanted to use a bios that booted from f drive.

I'm still on xbox live playing halo 2 for about 2 weeks even after removing files from my c and e drives.
I wanted to rent the game instead of buying it cause I wanted to test it to see if I get banned. Marriage theory seems about right to me.
I haven't been on live for quite some time, been months.
Now I'm playing halo2 and have yet to be banned *knock on wood*.

Halo 2 is fun!!

[OUberLord]

If it helps any, Im running:

120Gb HD, (The bios on the chip is whatever X2 one was the first to block XB Live connections), Xecuter 2 Pro
C Partition: Stock xboxdash.xbe, UnleashX named as evoxdash.xbe, Skins folder in root of C for UnleashX, SDK Software (For which yes, I am a valid user)
E Partition: Additional SDK Software, Homebrew Apps, Folders used by Emulators
F Partition: (Movies, Games, ROMs, stand F drive usage stuff)

I have played on Xbox Live nearly daily with Halo 2 and have yet to be banned.  this leads me to believe (and this is probably already discussed) that:
A ) Non-stock HD isn't causing the bans.
B ) Having non-stock files on the HD isn't causing the bans either (Unless these non-stock files overwrite stock ones, as someone suggested before)
C ) LPC scans are not being performed.

[gerzand]

It is correct to say that people got banned from xbox live originally (eeprom along with serial#), but that was only temporary and those people can fix this now as many have realized, they are only banning HDD-Keys, not serial #'s if your xbox / hard drive is DETECTABLY messed with. There are several ways they can know this.

THE DISK.BIN METHOD
MS knows if you have ever changed eeproms, or changed a hard drive that you thought was banned because the hard drive has HIDDEN data in the Partition Table if your xbox has ever logged onto Live - And when this data is swapped out/mismatched (HD is switched, or new EEPROM flashed), they know you have messed with their intellectual property which = BANNED HDD-Key (you might as well buy a new eeprom though, because where else are you going to get an unbanned Key?)


THE ACCIDENTAL MOD-CHIP ON

This is when you try to sign onto live and they scan ur bios and find that its not legal which = BAN of your WHOLE eeprom - NOT hard drive Key or Serial #


DETECTBLE NON STOCK LARGER HARD DRIVE

MS can see that a hard drive is larger than stock if you forget to format your hard drive so that ONLY the F partition is larger than stock. ALL applications must go on the F, including the lauchable XBE

THE MODIFIED XBOXDASH.XBE

Some dumasses found a way to edit the xboxdash.xbe file that comes on every xbox to be able to launch unsigned MS code to play  xbox games online witht the mod-chip ON. ***This is theoretically my MS starting banning based on HD size/DISK.BIN Data***


Look at my Posts to see how to fix all of these BANNING reasons by using a Low Level Formatting utility to erase the Partition Table, buying a new NON-FLAGGED/ NEVER SEEN XBOX LIVE EEPROM, and creating a new gamertag and NEVER using a flagged one!

Peace all.