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sicrecords

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« Reply #90 on: November 18, 2004, 09:46:00 AM »
Wow.. there's some rampant stupidity in these forums.

If I was MS. I'd ban half of you too.
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« Reply #91 on: November 18, 2004, 10:01:00 AM »
QUOTE (sicrecords @ Nov 18 2004, 06:49 PM)
Wow.. there's some rampant stupidity in these forums.

If I was MS. I'd ban half of you too.

Wow...that was a useless reply in this already confusing topic.
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« Reply #92 on: November 18, 2004, 10:23:00 AM »
QUOTE (zoomer777 @ Nov 18 2004, 06:41 PM)
I guess in doing this, I need to somehow put evoxdash on F: so that I can still run that when in modded mode?  Can this be done without any additional files being placed on the C: partition?

Oh yeah, thanks for the quick tutorial.  Would you happen to know how to enter the new HDDKey as well?

you can either put evolution onto a cdrw or dvd, or get a bios that lets u boot to F.  I havent bothered with doing this because I swap my drives.  Oh, and if you boot off the cd drive, you cant change your avalaunch.xml file on the fly, so I would recommend the f drive bios.

I think u gotta go into config magic, and do an on the fly edit of the HD sn.
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« Reply #93 on: November 18, 2004, 10:28:00 AM »
Even if you did clean the E: drive that isn't going to prevent game/app saves in the future. So what do you do about that? Most programs you can't specify where it saves to.
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« Reply #94 on: November 18, 2004, 10:28:00 AM »
QUOTE (dzv @ Nov 18 2004, 10:59 AM)
OK, I've tested this theory out (am I the only one besides Angerwound to test it?)...

My Xbox was banned on the 9th.  Haven't got around to getting unbanned until tonight.  I decided to try out this HDD key theory.  I used a backup of an EEPROM from one of my other (XBL virgin) Xboxes to get a new HDD key.

I followed the steps exactly as Angerwound posted:



I did not change my HDD, or anything else on the Xbox.

My results:
When trying to connect to Live I get the "Technical Configuration" error.  My XYZ codes are posted below.  So, this HDD key unbanning technique did nothing for me, except get from the "Moddified hardware" error to "Technical Configuration" error.

X: 0000 - 000D
Y: 00C2 - 0184
Z: AFFF - 0018

Hrm.. This is very strange.. The only time I received the technical error was when I had a HDD Key they didn't like.

I took the HDD Key of my unbanned box and combined it with almost 10 different eeproms that had been banned previously in the past. Each and every one would login to the service. However, if I placed a hdd Key that was made up within this field it would report the Technical Error.

Thanks for testing BTW.

EDIT: I'm also behind a router, therefore they can't exactly ban my Mac Address of the router. Which means if you aren't behind one they could still ban your Mac Address from connecting.
DZV@ Try moving the mac addy and hdd key to the old eeprom and post those results.
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« Reply #95 on: November 18, 2004, 10:43:00 AM »
QUOTE (2K2CamaroSS @ Nov 18 2004, 10:31 AM)
Even if you did clean the E: drive that isn't going to prevent game/app saves in the future. So what do you do about that? Most programs you can't specify where it saves to.

That is why you leave it for just stock ms programs after you clean it. Which is a bummer if you only have 1hd..
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« Reply #96 on: November 18, 2004, 11:16:00 AM »
Well, I have since re-installed my larger HDD drive and so far so good, I will keep people posted with updates on whether I get banned or not.

XBOX V1.0
X2 Pro
X2 4981 BIOS (boots XBMC from F:\DASH)
Thomson DVD
Maxtor 120GB HDD

Everything on C: is stock
Everything on E: is stock (barring any files that may sneak on there from apps that I'm not aware of)

I have been playing Halo 2 from my HDD for campaign mode and system link, from the DVD for XBOX Live.

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On a side note, I think the marriage theory is completely bogus for one reason, and its a damn good one.

IF your EEPROM and HDD S/N is matched up when you sign up for live, then some point down the road your XBOX is sent in for repairs and they replace your HDD, that means your EEPROM and HDD S/N will no longer match up, which according to the marriage theory equals ban.

Any LOGICAL human being would see that.

Personally I think there should be a more in-depth investigation into it.. I'm leaning towards:

1:  MS has secretly flashed the TSOP with an updated version of thier BIOS, allowing them to scan for F: and G: drives.
2:  MS is exploiting 3rd and 4th gen modchips that allow themselves to be turned on and off using "soft" methods (holding the power button in for a set time, certain button combos, that kind of thing).  This would lend credence to the LPC theory, which I think is the most valid. (has anyone even bothered to find out what modchips these people were using?)
3:  Alot of people got banned for "noob" mistakes and are too damn stubborn to admit it.  (people who forgot to or didn't know how to lock thier HDD, people who forgot to turn off thier modchip, people who tried to play on live using a copy, or some other error on thier part)
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« Reply #97 on: November 18, 2004, 11:31:00 AM »
QUOTE (ampedXR @ Nov 18 2004, 09:00 AM)
Guys. One word.
MARRIAGE

*UPDATE*
Since I'm not banned, I tend to disagree with the Marriage theory. HOWEVER, there is somthing that SURVEY didnt cover. "WHEN THIS TOOK AFFECT". I have been on XBL a long time, and my current upgraded hdd was installed BEFORE version 2 of xbl was released. If this MARRIAGE theory is correct, it very well could mean people that did this hdd swap before a certain point in time could actually of gotten away with it. Maybe other people can verify this.


my own test supports the marriage theory, and your suspicions about it ampedxr - the start date was at the live 2.0 dash update OR later...

however, another likely reason for why users are getting banned is simple. there are just that many new users coming into the scene and they dont know about the proper precautions for xbox live gaming.


edit: spelling
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« Reply #98 on: November 18, 2004, 11:46:00 AM »
ok mother f-ers, first i dont get any reply and im not a f'in noob. im trying to get my box back on live, without buying a new one but im about to. what the f is the deal here? mods should delete posts that have are double posts or posts about stupid shit so people who dont know anything can find the information they need. now here i go with my question,

since angerwound says its the hdd key, i think my problem completely makes his statement false BUT I COULD BE WRONG. when i first upgraded my hdd, i backed up everything and also copied the key from my old hard drive onto my new one so it copied everything so basically my new hdd was EXACTLY LIKE my old one and i still got banned. i think its more than this. most likely what you got on your drive. xbmc, you know other shit. oh well. looks like im just gonna buy a new one
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« Reply #99 on: November 18, 2004, 12:09:00 PM »
Quick check:
Ok i have an xectutor chip.  I have never ever been banned from live.  I did go on live before modding my system and I have since then upgraded my hd to a maxtor 120 gig and used to play quite often on the upgraded HD online. I am curious as to if I log onto live or try to play halo 2 will i receive a ban.  I have been reading through the forums trying to make sense of this but I have been out of the loop for a month or so now.  Will I get banned if I try to log on?  Has my EEProm been married with my original HD that came with my xbox and if so would getting a new eeprom allow me to go online fine with my upgraded HD.  I have not been online in at least a month.
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« Reply #100 on: November 18, 2004, 12:18:00 PM »
When you run the BACKUP command in Evolution dashboard, you get a file called hddinfo.txt, and in here it lists your HDD serial number and your HDDkey.  Now, the HDDkey it gives you is NOT the same hddkey that's in the EEPROM - it is unique to that particular hard drive.

For some reason, the HDDkey in the EEPROM doesn't relate to the HDD in your system, because if you change the HDD and keep the EEPROM, the HDDkey stays the same, right?

Can I do anything useful with the HDD keys that Evolution produces?  It produces a unique one for every hard drive you run it on (tested).
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« Reply #101 on: November 18, 2004, 12:20:00 PM »
So as long as weve had the bigger hdd the whole time, then we shouldnt get banned right?
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« Reply #102 on: November 18, 2004, 01:21:00 PM »
So, if my xbox was banned before they changed the method of banning, and all I did was change my HDD key, would I still get unbanned? Or do the old methods of detecting banned boxes still work as well?
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« Reply #103 on: November 18, 2004, 02:06:00 PM »
QUOTE (Samiad @ Nov 18 2004, 09:21 PM)
When you run the BACKUP command in Evolution dashboard, you get a file called hddinfo.txt, and in here it lists your HDD serial number and your HDDkey.  Now, the HDDkey it gives you is NOT the same hddkey that's in the EEPROM - it is unique to that particular hard drive.

For some reason, the HDDkey in the EEPROM doesn't relate to the HDD in your system, because if you change the HDD and keep the EEPROM, the HDDkey stays the same, right?

Can I do anything useful with the HDD keys that Evolution produces?  It produces a unique one for every hard drive you run it on (tested).

I was wondering the exact same thing.
I have upgraded my HDD and I made a back-up from evox right after the update
My hddinfo.txt has the following entries :

Disk Serial Number
Disk Model Number
HDD Key
HDDLockDisablePassword (with same data as HDDkey)
XboxHDKey

That last key is totally different from the HDDkey. I wonder if it is the original key from the original M$ hdd  uhh.gif

Any idea ?

Edit:
Just opened mu current EEprom and it lists the XboxHDKey (same # as in my hddinfo file) under HDDkey field.
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« Reply #104 on: November 18, 2004, 02:10:00 PM »
QUOTE (fizzLe @ Nov 18 2004, 08:49 PM)
ok mother f-ers, first i dont get any reply and im not a f'in noob. im trying to get my box back on live, without buying a new one but im about to. what the f is the deal here? mods should delete posts that have are double posts or posts about stupid shit so people who dont know anything can find the information they need. now here i go with my question,

since angerwound says its the hdd key, i think my problem completely makes his statement false BUT I COULD BE WRONG. when i first upgraded my hdd, i backed up everything and also copied the key from my old hard drive onto my new one so it copied everything so basically my new hdd was EXACTLY LIKE my old one and i still got banned. i think its more than this. most likely what you got on your drive. xbmc, you know other shit. oh well. looks like im just gonna buy a new one

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