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QUOTE (Angerwound @ Nov 18 2004, 05:02 AM)

checks will involve c:\xboxdash.xbe, and d:\default.xbe other than that I wouldn't think they'd NEED to verify any other files do you have these files changed as well?

I didn't.. just had my xbmc save on E and c:\xbmc.xbe

but i had played live before i modded my xbox and upgraded my HDD.

So it's most likely the LPC scan.

[threefromthekey]

i changed it (using my same banned eeprom and an old banned eeprom's key just for the hell of it) and got the message

"your xbox console cannot communicate with xbox live because of technical configuration issues."

so just to get this straight, i need to take my original, banned eeprom (or any banned eeprom) and put in the hdd key of any unbanned eeprom??

why not just totally replace the eeprom then if youre gonna have to buy a new one then.

[stan]

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I'd say you got screwed. Grab an eeprom from another seller, or back one up yourself.

I'm not sure because I loaded the original eeprom (the one that I was banned with) and still got the same Communication Error.  In the past, even after I was banned, I never got this error.  Could something from the new eeprom have changed a setting on my box that is causing this?  

Also, after I loaded the new eeprom I found that the language on the dashboard had been changed to portugese, though the region settings were the same as under my old eeprom(I'm not sure what region Portugal or Brazil are in, if this did in fact come from a portugese or brazilian box).

[Heykrop]

Here's one for you!
M$ IS scanning E:
How do I know?  I have only played 4 games on my box in the last month. 1 is sega NFL 2005. 2 is RB6 3.  3 is Crimson Skies and 4 is PGR2.  I have only connected to LIVE with PGR2 in the last 2 months.  Other than that I have connected to LIVE via the dash nightly to check my status and as of yet have not been banned. Strange thing is that if I look at the content of TDATA and UDATA in E: I see that there are at least 25 save game folders with files that have been modified in the last month. At least one of these I can identify as the HULK which I have not played in at least 6 - 8 months.  Yet it was modified only a few nights ago.     Hmmmm?      Strange how something I have not used has been modified.  OH and NO one but me uses this box.  SO no it was not a family member or friend that may have done it.

[Angerwound]

QUOTE (threefromthekey @ Nov 17 2004, 11:12 PM)

i changed it (using my same banned eeprom and an old banned eeprom's key just for the hell of it) and got the message "your xbox console cannot communicate with xbox live because of technical configuration issues." so just to get this straight, i need to take my original, banned eeprom (or any banned eeprom) and put in the hdd key of any unbanned eeprom?? why not just totally replace the eeprom then if youre gonna have to buy a new one then.

Yes, you can just replace the entire eeprom. The point of this post was to point out the exact bit of data they are banning from their servers. Not a "WONDER FIX" of some kind. The HDD Key is the bit of data they are banning from their servers rather than the Serial #/Mac Addy theory.

[NeoEraser]

So yeah, what do us guys with the 1.6's do in this particular situation?  This would be easy in ConfigMagic, but as stated it will not boot on a 1.6.  Any help here would be GREATLY appreciated.

[Angerwound]

Just replace the entire eeprom. There are instructions for changing EEPROMS on a 1.6 via LTOOLS lying around this forum.

[SnowJam]

I'm having little luck finding that ltools post...  I'll keep looking but if someone finds it, please post it here, I'm sure there are plenty of people with a banned 1.6.

[luther349]

i think the marrage is true man. i got a stock audio expolited system and its never been banned and isnt now, my frend has a chiped system  chalmion to be excact and a 40 gig hd and has halo 2 and plays it on live. he is not bnned from live. but i also warned him never to play halo 2 with his chip on even offline. my question is this the only game with such checks or is there going to be more.

as for my system thers stuff on e like xbmc and emulators and thers never been a problem.  the lpc bus scan cant be true couse it would have banned my frends system aruldy. also his hd was installed by me befor he ever used live on it. of course i locked that hd with the same key as his retail system using slayers.

my thery is all these bans your seeing are from halo2 leaks and people who where banned befor from live and changed eproms there buy the hd key doesent match the one from the one they sighned up with.  and if thats the case they can change keys and eproms all they like they will just be banned again. it makes alot of sence couse we all knoe they have been collicting hd info for some time now maybe they whent threw the info and serched out the mismatches.

also from people who made the mastake of playing halo2 with chip on being it checks it offline probly got banned to. they only way i see around this problem isnt no easy task. you litterly need to find a way around the banning system by spoffing info to live. or find the flage they leave on eproms and change them back to normal befor ever using live preventing baning from the games checks alll together.

or find a way to remove the checks out of the game for those who whant to make a backup.  and being its in the xbe its very possable. but being its only halo 2 right now and everyone loves to mod halo it will probly be done by some smart hacker.

[mrjkwik]

man, all of this can get confusing.  i know i'm confused.  let me see if i can break it down.  at least for the "usual case".  we all know there are several different situations on peoples banning "setups".  but i think we can all agree that having an

upgraded harddrive after being on live with the stock harddrive is the standard.

now, some questions i have that maybe others share...

1.  i'm assuming that when we upgraded the hdd, the hdd key changed?

2.  will changing JUST the eeprom with an hdd key that comes with it, fix the problem now?

3.  can we use the same upgraded drive, or must we revert to a fully stock drive?

4.  if no, do we have to have a set up where EVERYTHING is on f:/?

thats all i can think of for now.

if you answer these Angerwound, thanks for taking the time.

[Angerwound]

QUOTE (SnowJam @ Nov 17 2004, 11:41 PM)

I'm having little luck finding that ltools post...  I'll keep looking but if someone finds it, please post it here, I'm sure there are plenty of people with a banned 1.6.

http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=277574

Took me 20 minutes to find without search.

[Angerwound]

QUOTE (mrjkwik @ Nov 17 2004, 11:45 PM)

man, all of this can get confusing.  i know i'm confused.  let me see if i can break it down.  at least for the "usual case".  we all know there are several different situations on peoples banning "setups".  but i think we can all agree that having an upgraded harddrive after being on live with the stock harddrive is the standard. now, some questions i have that maybe others share... 1.  i'm assuming that when we upgraded the hdd, the hdd key changed? 2.  will changing JUST the eeprom with an hdd key that comes with it, fix the problem now? 3.  can we use the same upgraded drive, or must we revert to a fully stock drive? 4.  if no, do we have to have a set up where EVERYTHING is on f:/? thats all i can think of for now. if you answer these Angerwound, thanks for taking the time.

1) Yes and No. Some people calculated HDD Key's with Live Info when upgrading HDD without a chip. While some with chips just locked the Hard Drive with their current key.
So answer could really go both ways.
2) Yes, it really should as long as the eeprom is TRULY valid. But be sure to have nothing on C and E that shouldn't be there.
3) My tests suggest an upgraded HDD is possible to keep. I currently am running one with no bans.

[Gandalfawizard]

Hmm...I have an upgradded HDD and decieded to change back to my stock HDD before I go on live.  I have never signed up for live so I think if I go back to the stock HDD everything should be ok.   But since I switched HDD does this mean the HDD key is wrong and now I have to use my upgradded HDD?  Which HDD key is being used?  I think I will continue to switch HDDs, will I be ok?  I also just used slayers 2.6 to format my factory drive and make it look like a factory one(I used to use this and it had many apps on it).  Does this do anything that could potential ban me from live?  I also noticed a save that said something about "unknown save" in dashboard  I'm not sure what that means, but hopefully these questions could get answered.     Thanks.

[mrjkwik]

has the upgraded drive your using been banned before?

i have a xenium ice and used the xenium os for the hdd swap.  is that one that just reuses the key to your knowledge?

and if a virgin xbox is upgraded, your saying to take the hdd key off the virgin box, upgrade it with the new hdd, input the "old virgin" key, and all should be good as far as preventing a ban.  (some people want me to mod their boxes, but are now scared because of all of this, thats why i'm asking so many questions.  sorry)

[CoRP5e]

Will try this in a bit and ill post my results. ^^ i hope it works...i have 2 banned boxes is like to get back on XBL