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dannymak

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« Reply #60 on: November 18, 2004, 12:15:00 AM »
QUOTE (neo_nick @ Nov 18 2004, 08:35 AM)
Anyone know how to edit a 1.6 eeprom?  Iv gotten the bin file of it and a virgin hddlock key but have no way of putting it in since no tool i know of supprots it.

For 1.6here here !! wink.gif

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« Reply #61 on: November 18, 2004, 01:06:00 AM »
THIS THREAD IS NOT THE ANSWER TO THE XBOX LIVE BANNINGS.. IT'S A TIDBIT OF INFORMATION ON WHAT IS ACTUALLY BANNED WHEN THE BANNINGS TAKE PLACE. THIS THREAD WILL NOT KEEP YOU FROM GETTING BANNED. IT WILL HOWEVER (TEMPORARILY) UNBAN YOU. I SUGGEST UNTIL WE KNOW FOR SURE WHY YOU GET BANNED (SCANS, SERIALS, LPC CHECKS, ETC..), YOU DO NOT TRY ANYTHING IN THIS THREAD.
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« Reply #62 on: November 18, 2004, 01:17:00 AM »
QUOTE (ydgmms @ Nov 18 2004, 04:45 AM)
if this is the case..
why cant we just flash entirely new eeproms and be good to go?
why are some people getting rebanned after doing that?

I agree.

I would love this to be true, but there are many many people who have tried using new XBL virgin eeproms and have been rebanned within 24hrs

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« Reply #63 on: November 18, 2004, 01:53:00 AM »
In any case you would still have to fix what ever it was that got you banned in the first place.  And by fixing it, I would imagine that you would circumvent the banning, thus making the whole key-gen idea unnecessary.  Unless you are suggesting that we simply leave things as they are and be banned every time we log on only to unban ourselves with the keygen.  Which I can tell you right now would definitley pique the interst of MS as they would see an influx of new boxes on their live services.  But then again they might not mind as it would skew the Live data in their favor so as they could say to Sony HA!  look at how many users we have on live!

But that is neither here nor there.
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« Reply #64 on: November 18, 2004, 01:59:00 AM »
Even with a "stock" HDD, would it be safe to assume that MS could just look for save (UDATA/TDATA) directories that correspond to a few popular applications (EvoX, Avalaunch, XBMP, XBMC etc.) and ban if such a directory is found? Unless they all start storing their config information purely in separate files, preferably on the "hidden" F: drive, then as soon as you run ANY 3rd party app in their list, even from DVD-ROM, it'll re-generate its directory, next time you fire up XBL, you get rebanned.

This strikes me as a pretty reliable way for them to scan for alien files if they are in fact doing so.  

Regardless, I've got an Xbox here to mod, so before I do so I'll perk the EEPROM out of it and flash it into mine and see if it'll unban me.  Gives me an excuse to use the X3's EEPROM backup feature...

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« Reply #65 on: November 18, 2004, 02:22:00 AM »
QUOTE (SteveNZ @ Nov 18 2004, 11:02 AM)
Even with a "stock" HDD, would it be safe to assume that MS could just look for save (UDATA/TDATA) directories that correspond to a few popular applications (EvoX, Avalaunch, XBMP, XBMC etc.) and ban if such a directory is found? Unless they all start storing their config information purely in separate files, preferably on the "hidden" F: drive, then as soon as you run ANY 3rd party app in their list, even from DVD-ROM, it'll re-generate its directory, next time you fire up XBL, you get rebanned.

This strikes me as a pretty reliable way for them to scan for alien files if they are in fact doing so.  

Regardless, I've got an Xbox here to mod, so before I do so I'll perk the EEPROM out of it and flash it into mine and see if it'll unban me.  Gives me an excuse to use the X3's EEPROM backup feature...

Course the problem with that is you can quite easily ban an unmodified stock box by simply loading one of those save games onto the stock box from a memory card

not saying that's a reason they wouldn't do it, but it is something to think about
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« Reply #66 on: November 18, 2004, 02:23:00 AM »
QUOTE (SteveNZ @ Nov 18 2004, 11:02 AM)
Even with a "stock" HDD, would it be safe to assume that MS could just look for save (UDATA/TDATA) directories that correspond to a few popular applications (EvoX, Avalaunch, XBMP, XBMC etc.) and ban if such a directory is found? Unless they all start storing their config information purely in separate files, preferably on the "hidden" F: drive, then as soon as you run ANY 3rd party app in their list, even from DVD-ROM, it'll re-generate its directory, next time you fire up XBL, you get rebanned.

This strikes me as a pretty reliable way for them to scan for alien files if they are in fact doing so.  

Regardless, I've got an Xbox here to mod, so before I do so I'll perk the EEPROM out of it and flash it into mine and see if it'll unban me.  Gives me an excuse to use the X3's EEPROM backup feature...

Judging from LOTS of previous posts, it will unban you for 24 hrs, then you will get rebanned.
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« Reply #67 on: November 18, 2004, 04:35:00 AM »
OK, being that I haven't been banned myself (knock on wood), as soon as I heard about the banning's, I immediately pulled my stock HDD out of storage and put it in my XBOX so I could play Halo 2.  So far, so good.  Whats interesting is I had previously logged onto live using my upgraded HDD months ago.. think the last game I played was Rainbow Six.

Now, if what you say is correct, I should be able to put my upgraded HDD back into my XBOX as long as I:

1. lock it using my unbanned eeprom and hdd key (which it already is and has been since the day I put it in)
2. make sure everything on C: and E: is stock (once again, I never modified anything on C:, E: on the other hand does have saves from emulators and dashboards on it)
3. be 100% the chip is completely off (I use an X2 Pro with the the 4 toggles switches, I have always turned it off before logging onto live)

So, I should be just as good with a upgraded HDD as I am with stock for the following reasons:

1.  If they are scanning the LPC for a modchip, they would have gotten me regardless.
2.  If they are scanning E: for files that shouldn't be there, they would have noticed the copy of XBMC I have installed there. (yes, I installed it on my stock HDD)

This leads me to believe there is more to the bannings then meets the eye.  Someone needs to survey the people who have been banned, and the banned people need to be 100% honest so we can get to bottom of this.

1.  Did you lock your upgraded/original HDD before logging onto live?
2.  Was you modchip actually turned off?
3.  Did you D/L and play the french leak?
3a.  If so did you keep the save?
3b.  Is the game still on your HDD?
4.  What generation modchip are you using? (I ask this becuase it seems people with older modchips haven't been affected at all just from the posts that I've read.  Could it be the inclusion of a physical on/off switch is what saved us?)
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« Reply #68 on: November 18, 2004, 05:24:00 AM »
Maybe Halo 2 is checking while offline then storing something in the eeprom or hdd.

I remember i accidentally booted into h2 while running my m8 bios the day before I got banned....
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« Reply #69 on: November 18, 2004, 05:33:00 AM »
QUOTE (elpool @ Nov 18 2004, 07:08 AM)
So to successfuly log in to xbox Live, you just need to have an unbanned HDD key?  Does MS have a database of all the HDD keys from the xboxes they sell?  What stops someone from just entering random data into the HDD key?

Also, does the mairage theory still hold true?  huh.gif

Won't Work.
the eeprom works like a cdkey..
cdkey run on a certin patren. if only some one made a Keygen.

my qestion is.. if i Format the "E:" and changed the config wile of my Emulators and XBMC, i don't need to worry any more?

Allso.. where is the XBL account saved?.. i nuked E.. and it is still there O_o
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« Reply #70 on: November 18, 2004, 05:35:00 AM »
Angerwound, what program did you used to unlock / lock your hdd??Config Magic??
And, if you are using other apps like unleash, hdd loader, or others (on F: i belive)
They have folders on E: and this will not ban you again??
Thanks for the help!
Ah, i can change the eepron and hdd key right?
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« Reply #71 on: November 18, 2004, 05:37:00 AM »
i personaly think that it has something to do with halo 2, when i was playing it from hd, it had a major load time at one part, same on another xbox when playing from hd, but not having the problem when playing it from dvd with the original bios.
Could it be that if the halo 2 default.xbe is altered in any way (patched) it starts a scaning program of some sort?
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« Reply #72 on: November 18, 2004, 05:45:00 AM »
you havn't played live much have you? spammer...
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« Reply #73 on: November 18, 2004, 05:57:00 AM »
QUOTE (ICEchrono @ Nov 18 2004, 01:53 PM)
those apps save files on "E" will get you ban.

right now i'm trying to change the file root from E to F so it wont save notting on E

I've seen some savegames in the MS dashboard that say "Unknown Title". I'm guessing that these might be for the apps.

I'm almost certain that they are scanning HD's. I always connect to live with modchip off, leave MS files untouched and never use backups but I got banned. The only thing they could have found were EvoX on C and apps on E.
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« Reply #74 on: November 18, 2004, 06:10:00 AM »
QUOTE (Ces2k3 @ Nov 18 2004, 08:43 AM)
ok so by following all the steps above, i would be able to take my banned/xbox live not found   eeprom  and still use my 250 gb hd by just chainging the hd key?

edit* nevermind i got  my answer already laugh.gif  this thread grew so fast  i did even know there was more pages till i posted

This is also my question, but cannot decipher through all the BS in this thread.

The answer is yes correct?


(Seems we still need the virgin eeproms for this method, but not the whole file just the HD key from it)

This is so wierd, and hopefully this will stick for a while...
I feel another update comng soon...  ph34r.gif
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