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[g0tr3wt23]

QUOTE (idc @ Nov 18 2004, 10:22 AM)

Some interesting information in this thread... Of course, we have known all along that it was the EEPROM that was actually banned (either by serial number, HDD key, whatever). We have yet to find the actual cause of the banning; I suspect that there is more than one cause, so any number of the current theories could be correct. It would appear that the only means MS have of banning consoles from Xbox Live is by the EEPROM, unless anyone hear thinks differently. So I was thinking: Would it be possible to 'keygen' HDD keys, online keys, etc? Then, if/when the EEPROM becomes banned, we could just generate another key, reflash, then reconnect.

all you would need are between 10 and 20 valid eeproms to work out an algorithm by which to program a keygen. The more eeproms you have the easier it would be.

[Gumba]

QUOTE (g0tr3wt23 @ Nov 22 2004, 08:27 PM)

all you would need are between 10 and 20 valid eeproms to work out an algorithm by which to program a keygen. The more eeproms you have the easier it would be.

Why would you need valid eeproms?

You don't need to validate the eeproms to know the HDD key is a valid HDD key.

So, if what you want is just a large sampling of HDD keys just get a bunch of eeproms, valid or not and look at them.

personally I don't know how you plan to generate an algorithm to generate HDD keys...

[beerman831]

I just had an xecuter2.6 installed with a couple of the basic apps put on.  The first time I turned on my Xbox with the chip turned off I got the "unable to sign in" message, then got the "hardware or software modified" message.  Some people are talking about moving/erasing certain files from their e: and c: drives on their xbox and then being able to sign into Live.  Is it possible to remove the files (transfer) them to your pc, then play online then move them back as required or put the files elsewhere and have it work the same.  I have a stock hard drive and a v1.6 it that matters at all.

It seems to me (and I am not an expert) that the scan is of the hard disk looking for "unusual" files.  So what we need is a way to hide them, but how?

Please forgive me if this is already been discussed already, I only briefly scanned this thread.

[Gumba]

QUOTE (too2buff @ Nov 22 2004, 08:39 PM)

WHy is my upgraded HDD key the same as my Stock HDD key ? , I have an original back up of my HDD key stored on my computer and I compared to the upgraded one and they were exactly the same what gives ?

The HDD key comes with your xbox and is stored in the eeprom. It does not change when you upgrade the HD.

It is simply the key that the xbox uses to lock/unlock your HD. Since its unique to your xbox, once and HD is locked with a given key it can't be used on a different xbox unless it is first unlocked on the xbox that locked it.

[Duff Man]

I was just getting an update. u can still go on xbl if ur hdd was intalled before u regiesting for xbl as long as ur mod is off yes or no

[Az!]

I have had my Xbox modded for sometime with a Xenium.  I still have my original HD sitting in my closet.  I have yet to register or log into X-box live.

So what would be the step by step process for me to make sure my upgraded HD has the key of my original HD.  Do I put the original HD in,  backup the eeprom to my chip, put in the new hd, and load the eeprom and lock the HD?

I'm slightly confused about what information is held where, so a simple 1, 2, 3, step process would help me greatly.

Thanks

[newatmods]

Seems to me with all these post.  That MS was a little late to the game of checking on box....Sounds like if you went live before 2.o with mods in place you sould be ok providing you didn't do any hacking of game files on a backup dvd game.... I have not been banned of yet...did my mod after signing up for xbl, but was live before the v2.0 came out. I'm sure Ms has serial# of drives for warranty purpose back to the mft of the drive so they don't have to fork out the cash for a new drive. It's got to be backup games or hacks people are using online that's getting them busted or they did everything after 2.0(far as modding out the box). .... That's my view on the situation..... Another thing has everyone that got banned ran H2 on there machine wether they played it or copied it. Maybe there's a code in that. Sort of like doing a search and destroy campain......

[newatmods]

Seems to me with all these post.  That MS was a little late to the game of checking on box....Sounds like if you went live before 2.o with mods in place you sould be ok providing you didn't do any hacking of game files on a backup dvd game.... I have not been banned of yet...did my mod after signing up for xbl, but was live before the v2.0 came out. I'm sure Ms has serial# of drives for warranty purpose back to the mft of the drive so they don't have to fork out the cash for a new drive. It's got to be backup games or hacks people are using online that's getting them busted or they did everything after 2.0(far as modding out the box). .... That's my view on the situation..... Another thing has everyone that got banned ran H2 on there machine wether they played it or copied it. Maybe there's a code in that. Sort of like doing a search and destroy campain......

One more thing don't know if it matters?  When I'm not playing xbl and using my xbox with the modchip on I do not have my box connected to my network. When i'm ftp to my box i have the outside line to the internet disconnect to make sure the box can't get to xbl for any reason.....Don't think this is a factor but it might be.

[trickdogg]

Wow, that sucks...

So, there's no way for me to upgrade my HDD now that I've signed onto LIVE (with X3 mod + stock HDD)?

Is there no way to make the upgraded HDD look identical to the stock HDD?

[Stryker112]

hey trick, ur best bet would be to do the external hd mod found in the tutorial section.  Other than that if u have nothing on that harddrive, u could do the steps suggested by gadget of doing a low lvl format and then returning it to retail and getting a new gamertag and all but with the external harddrive set up u could just swap drives.  I'm gonna do that assuming i don't get banned after dropping my stock harddrive back in and returning it to retail condtion although i'm not sre how this will go because my 120 gig was in during the xbox live 2.0 update although i didn't read this when it was posted and my friend had the exact same set up as me and got banned so i'll post my findings.

[X2Gamer]

Well the thing is we were the ones who started it so we are the mouse and ms is the cat. Everything can be figured out and it's nice to see that the people on this board are trying so hard. I agree that the getting a new xbox is the best way to play on live.

[FreewayX327]

all right lets see if i can get this straight. right now my friends eeprom is banned  because of me using it on my xbox. its been banned before halo 2. so would i have to get a new eeprom and use that since the eeprom on his xbox currently is banned. he has not yet registered for live so im thinking he would not get banned since he is registering after all mods were done. hd change ect. that is what i did. i registered awhile bak after all mods were done n im yet to be banned.

and also should i keep the eeprom he currently has on there since the hd key could be useful.

as for getting a new xbox it is an option. but if this theory works it could save about $150+.

[BraveBen]

QUOTE (Duff Man @ Nov 24 2004, 06:50 AM)

I was just getting an update. u can still go on xbl if ur hdd was intalled before u regiesting for xbl as long as ur mod is off yes or no

Are you completely sure about this? My situation is that I signed up for my first gamertag BEFORE i had my 200 gb hd put in. But then, MS screwed up my gamertag on accident so I had to make a new gamertag, which was AFTER I got my hd put in. If I take this new gamertag on live, I'm safe?

[Samiad]

Recently, this happened to me :

I have an Xbox with 120GB drive and had a Live account (after I installed my 120GB installed).  My housemate got my Xbox banned by signing in with the modchip on.  I understand the EEPROM and hard drive were banned.

I replaced the EEPROM and kept the same hard drive and was banned the next day again.  I believe this is because I have used a (now) banned hard drive.

Therefore I assume that once banned, you CANNOT use the same hard drive on ANY Xbox for Xbox Live - is this correct?  Has anyone been able to put a banned hard drive back on Xbox Live?  I doubt it.

[warbeast]

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I replaced the EEPROM and kept the same hard drive and was banned the next day

was the new eeprom taken from a virgin xbox or has it been used on live?