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Gumba

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« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2004, 09:10:00 AM »
QUOTE (Salvage13 @ Nov 11 2004, 05:44 PM)
Need some help. I signed up for xbox Live using my Stock 8GB HD back in 2002 when xbox live first came out. Did they record my HD Seriel number or when did they start keeping track. I Upgraded to a larger HD in 2003, played Live for weeks with no problems. I know i upgrade the hardrive before MS Dashboard 2.0 , Am i safe from the ban?

I think so, tell us your results
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solid7x2

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« Reply #46 on: November 11, 2004, 09:11:00 AM »
cryptic, what was ur setup? and did u have files on C or E?

I cant figure out why I was banned except that I had files on C and E although im not even sure if thats possible  blink.gif

if you have a modded xbox on live, just accept the fact that there is a posibility u will get banned even if you are careful... its part of the 'game' we play with M$.
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Gumba

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« Reply #47 on: November 11, 2004, 09:14:00 AM »
QUOTE (a_madman @ Nov 11 2004, 06:03 PM)
If you have upgraded your hdd, and played XBL on both the stock hdd and the new upgraded one (resulting in a ban), are both hdd's affected?  If you get a new EEPROM, could you use either of these hdd's or are they both banned?

The theory says they're both banned, but it all depends on the dates and stuff.

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« Reply #48 on: November 11, 2004, 09:17:00 AM »
just for some information.  Last night at about 12:30 I was on xbox live playing with no problem.  I've had xbox live for 2 days.  I've only used the retail kernel since I GOT xbox live.  Now this morning at 9:00, my xbox will not connect.  It seems to know that my xbox is modded.  I know for certain i haven't made any mistakes, so there is something else going on...
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cryptic

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« Reply #49 on: November 11, 2004, 09:10:00 AM »
after i read everyone was getting band with the pre released french game i moved everything to the f drive changed the bios to be an f booting bios and cleaned everything off of c: and e: so the only thing not normal would be saved games from apps in tdata udata such as XBMC and Unleashx nothing else . and i never played the french game but i did buy h2 the day it came out played that night on live banned the next day .
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« Reply #50 on: November 11, 2004, 09:37:00 AM »
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I think your all wrong they are checking something that hasn't been thought of yet i just got banded yesterday my setup is xecuter 2 pro xblive blocking bios upgraded and locked hard for about 2+ years about a year before i signed on to xblive all games, apps, dashboards are on F: partition only thing they could probably see is that my drive is not the one from the factory or that i have saves that don't belong like XBMC and such everyone that is still ok is probably just on the list and will be banned soon enough!

Just my 2 cents !!!!!!!


M$ Sucks grr.gif


so you had this set up BEFORE you ever signed up for live, right?

at anypoint after that, have you changed ANYTHING about it.  as in a dvd drive swap, or remformatted the hdd?
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jshorr

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« Reply #51 on: November 11, 2004, 10:02:00 AM »
Gumba,

Is it possible that the marriage theory is correct but that in addition it is also checking other things.  A user on another thread said that he had a modded xbox that he modded after signing up to XBL fine and he got it banned by copying a non-ms font file onto his C drive.  Someone else (can't remember if it was you or someone else) got a box banned by switching the hard drive.  Can't it be more than one thing?
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« Reply #52 on: November 11, 2004, 10:03:00 AM »
heres my situation , i have a 80 gig hd that has never seen live , and an eeprom that has never seen live , can i format this 80 gig hd and put new eeprom on my xbox and be okay onlive , or do i need a new gamertag also?
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FreakInvasion

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« Reply #53 on: November 11, 2004, 10:11:00 AM »
Your theory is exactly what I was thinking...
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solid7x2

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« Reply #54 on: November 11, 2004, 10:08:00 AM »
of course its possible, unfortunately no way to really tell.  the only thing we can do is do experiments (if people are willing to donate hard drives and eeproms as well as time) and make educated guesses based on the facts... there is no way to tell whats actually going on.

Who knows, M$ may have a new 'team' of people working on this kind of stuff, and every month come up with a new update...
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jshorr

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« Reply #55 on: November 11, 2004, 10:28:00 AM »
QUOTE (solid7x2 @ Nov 11 2004, 07:11 PM)
Who knows, M$ may have a new 'team' of people working on this kind of stuff, and every month come up with a new update...

that's really the downside to holding out and not getting a new xbox.  I kind of like the way my box is set up now, and if I'm going to be changing eeproms and hd's if I get banned and do whatever I can to get back online only to have them do something else and ban me again.  I sort of feel like if MS really wants modders banned (and not just cheaters) that there really won't be a way around it for very long....if they aren't especially trying to ban modders then it may be possible to figure out what they are looking for that they THINK people might use to cheat...
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Gumba

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« Reply #56 on: November 11, 2004, 10:29:00 AM »
QUOTE (jshorr @ Nov 11 2004, 06:58 PM)
Gumba,

Is it possible that the marriage theory is correct but that in addition it is also checking other things.  A user on another thread said that he had a modded xbox that he modded after signing up to XBL fine and he got it banned by copying a non-ms font file onto his C drive.  Someone else (can't remember if it was you or someone else) got a box banned by switching the hard drive.  Can't it be more than one thing?

Yes, totally possible.

Probable even
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Gumba

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« Reply #57 on: November 11, 2004, 10:31:00 AM »
QUOTE (RoCk-Box @ Nov 11 2004, 07:06 PM)
heres my situation , i have a 80 gig hd that has never seen live , and an eeprom that has never seen live , can i format this 80 gig hd and put new eeprom on my xbox and be okay onlive , or do i need a new gamertag also?

If you have been banned, then the gamertag you were using at the time would've been flagged, and will no longer be able to be used with non-stock HDs.
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« Reply #58 on: November 11, 2004, 10:31:00 AM »
QUOTE (mrjkwik @ Nov 11 2004, 01:33 PM)

so you had this set up BEFORE you ever signed up for live, right?

at anypoint after that, have you changed ANYTHING about it.  as in a dvd drive swap, or remformatted the hdd?

No I never had to just changed software around
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« Reply #59 on: November 11, 2004, 10:24:00 AM »
Here is an idea, someone who doesnt have an XBL account, get a packet sniffer(ethereal is a good one) sniff everything while u sign up for an account.  try to make sure nothing else is running that will be captured.  It will likely be a shitload of information to sort through.  Hopefully if its not encrypted, it should be easy to pick out it sending a serial number of some sort.

Then also sniff when you log into xbl, see what it does.

I'd try it, but i've been on live for a bit, wouldnt work out.

If not, it would be interesting to see what goes back and forth during initial setup.
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