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GamezMan

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The Thread for a *possible* new banning system
« Reply #195 on: November 03, 2004, 07:43:00 PM »
Rampage575, if u have NEVER BEEN BANNED b4 then u have nothing to worry about, as long as u ALLWAYS TURN OFF CHIP B-4 LIVE
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« Reply #196 on: November 03, 2004, 08:58:00 PM »
I have talked to M$ before about this issue and they said that the GamerTag is not flagged but it is not available for ppl to use for up to 3months as for any canceled accounts
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« Reply #197 on: November 04, 2004, 12:08:00 PM »
Hey guys,
I have been reading alot of threads regarding this new banning issue. Well i dont know but i think thats what happend with mine. I signed up with XBL one year ago with the original HDD. I later on got my Xbox chipped with new 80 GB HDD. I never got banned and anything and made sure that the chip is always off. I was a bit scared of Live 3.0 update and playing Rainbow Six 3: RA as its the only one using the latest update. By the way my subcription was expiring on the 24th Oct'04. I didnt get banned and thought of renewing my account. Everything went smooth. I bought prepaid renewal card and thought i'll get away with it. Now what i think MS doesnt scan ur xbox usually, they only do it when u sign up or renew ur account. The thing with mine was the last time i played was around 23rd. What i think is that they scanned my xbox the next time i tried logging after 24th and got busted. They must have marked my xbox during renewal process as there was same serial but different HDD. It makes sense as if u buy a new xbox and look for ur account from the management. The GT is untouched and works on new xbox as there is no history of this new serial with hard drive. I certainly believe that new eeprom and new HDD that never went on XBL should resolve the issue. Right now i m looking for a new Eeprom. Hopefully i'll let u know what happens. So guys make sure when u renew ur account or play first time after renewal, ur using the HDD u used during sign up initially.
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poiygon

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« Reply #198 on: November 05, 2004, 02:03:00 AM »
Alright, I finally got an EEPROM that has never touched LIVE. I've swapped out the HDD with a brand new 160gb. I played DOA:U for about an hour tonight. I'll update this post tomorrow night with current info.

**update **

It's been 32 hours since the EEPROM and HDD were swapped. I have been banned. Sorry for doubting anyone, but I had to try it myself. Now the question is, what information are they getting that determines a box is modded when the chip is off?
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smokeingit

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« Reply #199 on: November 05, 2004, 12:46:00 PM »
Check it, i have been modding forever and have saved eeproms from xbox that would never go on xbox live by customers... i changed the serial number the passwords and reinstalled all the software and only left the hacked software on F drive.

2 nights ago i got banned from random, so thats when i changed everything on my xbox... then last night i was able to go on xbox live to find out today that i was banned and had not even got on hacked mode with my system...

what i need to know is what chips you guys are using... because this shit sucks, on how i got banned and didnt even have the chance to go on fucking evox. so we need to know whats going on. and yes you nooblets i did everything from change the mac and all. so lets hear more.
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« Reply #200 on: November 05, 2004, 01:21:00 PM »
okay today i told my customer not to turn on his X3 till tomorrow. to see if indeed is the chip. he bought the live starter kit and he called me today wanting to go online with his store bought DOA 3U and he said he got banned... he said that he went on last night and everything was great. then he got on this morning and got the mod error... like i said he swears up and down he didnt go on hacked mode. and i believe him cause the same fucking thing happend to me.
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GamezMan

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« Reply #201 on: November 05, 2004, 01:27:00 PM »
smokeingit, did u change hdd to a stock one ??? or big hdd and new Game-Tag ???

If not u coulden't have read this post, it is a mess but the info is here....
anyway here is the thred to sucsefully get back online   http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=299557
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smokeingit

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« Reply #202 on: November 05, 2004, 03:37:00 PM »
yeah i read that thread, and its great all with that theory but its not true at all. i have contacted some of my customers that i have on my buddy list for xbox live and i asked them if they are able to go on live with any issue's and they both said no. both of them have a split TSOP on a 1.0 motherboard with the C:\ having all the evox shit installed on them. yet my X3 got banned with all its shit on F:\.... i knew about that "new Procedure" as of august when smartxx team told us this shit was comming and everyone laughed at the team. so i guess they got the last laugh after all.

i am going to install my old SmartXX chip and remove the X3 and see if i get banned again... this is the only way i can test a possiable theory.
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lordvader129

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« Reply #203 on: November 07, 2004, 10:48:00 AM »
split TSOP, dashboards on F but got some junk on C and E, 250gb HD

guess what, NOT banned, why? because i never connected to Live with a hacked bios loaded, its called being careful
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poiygon

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« Reply #204 on: November 07, 2004, 12:39:00 PM »
Well duh asswipe. Some people, including myself, made a mistake somewhere. Wether it be playing a Live Aware game without having an XBL blocking BIOS or thinking you could play a backup on XBL. Whatever the case may be, it was never intentional.
However, there is a good chance that you will be banned in the future if MS decides to step up their security. Right now we think that MS is gathering other info and testing a new method on gamertags that have been banned. This other info seems to rely heavily on the harddrive and eeprom. If they start banning HDD models/serial #s that aren't in their database, many people will be needing to buy seperate XBoxes just for XBL.
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lordvader129

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« Reply #205 on: November 07, 2004, 02:30:00 PM »
QUOTE (poiygon @ Nov 7 2004, 02:42 PM)
Well duh asswipe. Some people, including myself, made a mistake somewhere. Wether it be playing a Live Aware game without having an XBL blocking BIOS or thinking you could play a backup on XBL. Whatever the case may be, it was never intentional.
However, there is a good chance that you will be banned in the future if MS decides to step up their security. Right now we think that MS is gathering other info and testing a new method on gamertags that have been banned. This other info seems to rely heavily on the harddrive and eeprom. If they start banning HDD models/serial #s that aren't in their database, many people will be needing to buy seperate XBoxes just for XBL.

from what ive noticed the new system is to ban both eeprom and HD serial number when you connect with a hacked bios loaded

after this initial ban it is then possible to be banned with chip off, sicne your HD is also banned it will ban your new eeprom, thus far the only way to get banned for the first time is the same as it has always been, conencting to live with hacked bios laoded

im not making any arguemnts for future security measures MS may implement, who knows what theyll do in the future thats not what im discussing, my point is that there are only 2 ways to get banned, and only 1 if youve never been banned before
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lordvader129

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« Reply #206 on: November 07, 2004, 03:32:00 PM »
when did you get banned? they have only been doing the HD thing recently (liek since h2 was leaked) so if you got bannedm, say, 2 months ago it was only the traditional eeprom-only ban
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« Reply #207 on: November 07, 2004, 07:39:00 PM »
maybe someone read my post on the back up section about my problem... long story short i logged onto live and it banned the crap outta me after dloading some files. Now me evolutionx doesnt boot . Happened on nov 6. Just wondering if there was any way of fixing it?
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« Reply #208 on: November 07, 2004, 09:22:00 PM »
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« Reply #209 on: November 08, 2004, 12:32:00 PM »
I've got an old Xbox (Thomson drive, bought within two months of UK release) which was standard and had been used on on Live! since May this year right up until a month ago.

I got an Xecutor 2.3b lite put in along with a 160gig HDD.  I connected to Xbox Live! using Full Spectrum Warrior 2 weeks ago, and still can today.  I can get into it via the dashboard as well.  No problems at all, anywhere.  this is using the same EEPROM, as far as I know, throughout.

The HDD does not appear to bother it at all.
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