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QUOTE (Hinotori @ Oct 22 2004, 09:14 PM)

No way... There are people who were never banned before and were banned after 16 without a modchip on. I still believe, there are modchips that are vulnerable and readable thru the LPC even tough the non retail bios is not loaded. About the ban-ban-ban situation, there are two options. I could be right and there are modchips that simply are being detect, even tough they are suposed to be "off", this would explain why you keep getting banned, or the second option is A.Z. statement, they must be using processor ID, and that is it. Because console serial number is in the EEPROM, since they record the serial number at the factory, it is well know that the serial number is in the EEPROM, when you change it for another, you change the console serial number. And if they are using processor ID, there is no way to unban a console anymore, period. Hope this is not the case. If it is certain models of LPC mod chips, then you could just put a switch to really turn that thing off of your Motherboard. Maybe someone that is in the ban-ban-ban situation can try to put a new EEPROM and then detach the modchip, and keep without the modchip for at least 3 or 4 days and keep using XBOX Live! and see if will get banned.... Someone who has a pin header on the LPC bridge for example.... If he/she is not banned, then, it is the modchip thing... If is not, then sure is the processor ID or other ID that is readable and not changeable (I don't know, maybe nVIDIA chipset has an unique ID as well??)...

At this time I have assume user error.  They logged on with the chip on or MS is looking for Halo 2 files.  Untill my buddie gets banned I just dont buy it.  How many of these inexperienced cats do we have out there leaving thier ethernet plugged into the Xbox???  All it takes is one idiot friend/brother/sister/parent that knows just enough to accidently fuck them over.

[Optimus]

Hey guys, its me the guinea pig. Well its been about 39 hours now and I am still going strong on Xbox Live. There are alot of questions so I am going to lay out what I did, and what my box is like.

I am running a TSOP mod, with a switch to split it in half. One half running Original bios and the other Xecuter2 4976.02, if I am remebering properly. Everything else is stock except the hard drive of course.

As far as apps go I run the latest Avalaunch dash and your basic DVDx2, XBMC, Config Magic and XCommander. As well as lots of emulators, most done by XPort, and some backed up games. I don't download games of the net, don't trust the source.

Ok, here is what I did when following the method givin to me by A.Z.BEST®. I first backed up the entire contents of my c drive (which is just both dashes), and all of my apps. I did not back up any game's or emulators off my drive. This probably isn't important, but I don't want to leave anything out. One thing to note is that I did not backup any game saves, only becuase I forgot, but I did not do it. I then created an evox boot disc with all my backed up files, and the new eeprom I got from A.Z.BEST®. I unlocked my old drive, shut down the xbox, disconnected the network cable and replaced the hard drive with a new one. I then booted up the evox disc and created the drive, copied my backups over and removed the disc and booted from the Avalaunch on the hd. I ran config magic and updated to the new eeprom (it was PAL so I on-fly edited it to NTSC). After locking the drive I turned off mod and booted. I adjusted all the settings to meet my needs, except for the network. I turned mod back on and booted, letting Avalaunch re-setup my network settings. I use a static IP, so this was quicker. Then I booted back up without the mod copied my live account off of my memory card back onto the hard drive. I have been on live ever since. I have played a bunch of Wolfenstein, and have tried logging in through the game, and the dashboard. No problems yet.

Well thats all I can think off. If you are still here after all that, congratulations. Feel free to ask any questions you may have.

fruitbat04: Sorry to hear you were rebanned. Only thing I can think of is that you transfered your game saves and I didn't. Or you used account recovery and I transfered my account over memory card. Well read my info above and let us know if you did anything else different.

[miggidy]

QUOTE (CloakedHunter @ Oct 22 2004, 09:18 PM)

Have we completely ruled out the hard drive theory or what? Have we had any news from Optimus?

I can't reply your PM for some reason....

Fruit threw in a new hdd but was still hit.
But I wouldn't rule out the hdd just yet, it might be a combination of things.

[A.Z.BEST]

Hmmm... there's still a light in the tunnel. We need more testers...

[handles25]

QUOTE (A.Z.BEST® @ Oct 22 2004, 10:18 PM)

Hmmm... there's still a light in the tunnel. We need more testers...

Perhaps I can sign up this weekend If I have the extra cash.  FYI the system I will be trying it with will be

Fresh spanking new sign up and GT(I dont use live really)
1.0 MB
250 gig HD
stock eeprom(never been on live before)
Xpro 2.3


My buddie might have some of those trial cards left.  I'll see what I can do.


Oh heres a conversation with guy that ive been helping out.  He has his stock MS OS same MB as when he first signed on and an X3 with like a 200 gig HD


trav is a hoser: have you gone on live yet?
EDITFORPROTECTION: I used the account recovery and recovered my account
EDITFORPROTECTION: that all worked fine
EDITFORPROTECTION: but I haven't played on there yet
trav is a hoser: you have an X3 and a larger HD right?
EDITFORPROTECTION: yeah
trav is a hoser: let me know how it all goes
EDITFORPROTECTION: k
EDITFORPROTECTION: I'll get on later tonight
trav is a hoser: they are banning users and we are trying to find out why
EDITFORPROTECTION: hmm
trav is a hoser: it seems if youve never been banned your safe
EDITFORPROTECTION: I recovered my account last night
trav is a hoser: I have a freind thats rocking the live right now
EDITFORPROTECTION: that worked fine
trav is a hoser: no probs
trav is a hoser: modded box
EDITFORPROTECTION: thats good
trav is a hoser: just keep me posted K
EDITFORPROTECTION: I will

[garyopa]

I run a modding shop in Canada, and alot of my machines I modded
are coming back BANNED, and some are soft-modded and others
have the TSOP with a switch and even others have the fancy shit
like Xenium ICE, one with X3, etc.

The common factor in all the BANNED machines is the use of
homebrew software. Even see a machine with no files changed
on the C: drive, that was BANNED.

My theory is XBOX live new updates are BANNING machines with
"invalid" SAVE entrys on the E: drive, even from PAL games or
unreleased games or "HOMEBREW" software like DVD2XBOX, UnleashX, etc.

Any thoughts on this theory?

[miggidy]

Like I said in an other post, that is very possible since M$ says it clearly that it will ban people with hacked gamesaves.
Which leads to one conclusion, that they are checking our gamesave memory banks. And only now are they acting on the rest of the peeps with homebrew or leaked gamesaves....

[GamezMan]

Maan, this isn't looking good at all is it.. apart from Optimus and thats only 40hours...

Optimus have u used any tunneling sofware

Does any-1 have any info on what the chip makers are saying about this or tuneling ppl..

[handles25]

QUOTE (miggidy @ Oct 23 2004, 12:19 AM)

Like I said in an other post, that is very possible since M$ says it clearly that it will ban people with hacked gamesaves. Which leads to one conclusion, that they are checking our gamesave memory banks. And only now are they acting on the rest of the peeps with homebrew or leaked gamesaves....

Yeah I think its a good one.  We cant really find anything tying all these bans together.  This is could be it.


If thats the case we need to find a new place to put saves or hell even just always put them on a memory card if possible.


I think I might try to get myself banned just to test this.


My friend has a 2MO free card hes gonna give me tonight or tommorow.  I'll revert my Box back to stock except for Evox.


If it works for a few days then I'll rebuild my old with all the emulator and homebrew saves see what happens.

[CloakedHunter]

So, how many successes (so far) do we have with the HDD/EEPROM fix? And how many failures do we have with the HDD/EEPROM fix?

[fruitbat04]

QUOTE (CloakedHunter @ Oct 23 2004, 12:32 AM)

So, how many successes (so far) do we have with the HDD/EEPROM fix? And how many failures do we have with the HDD/EEPROM fix?

Failure here - New Hard drive new eeprom - banned in about 20 hours of first connect

[GamezMan]

That sucks fruitbat04, i was gonna try this weekend, but now it seems like a wast of time...
this is mad, cus as far as we modders know m$ should know\think your xbox is a completly new\diff xbox but u still got banned..

surly they cant be flaggin G-Tags and banning any xboxes they sign on with
No they cant, cus ppl have posted that they phoned m$ and m$ said get a new xbox...or was it get a new GT and xbox  

yeah cus if they was gonna do that they would just ban any mod-deteted console and ban ur GT and after ur hdd and eeprom change, the worst case should have been that you could still sign in but got message that ur GT had been cancelled but not xbox with new eeprom and hdd

So they must have a way that they know its still the same xbox although u changed hdd and eeprom...   what  do y'all think

What about "content download" isn't this uniqe to each xbox did u transfer this also, i think u did as its in ur saves folder... it may be this

[gfreire]

Ok i changed my hardrive, and put on a new clean eeprom.  I used the exact copy of the hard drive of the eeprom image i used.  When i go try to connect to xbox Live i get a network error.  I don't know whats wrong because my other xbox connected to the same router is able to acess xbox live without a problem.  I also tried putting on older dashboards and i get errors like aboa live not found.  I also tried newer copys of xbox hardrive's.  I am not being able to log in but i dont get the message modified xbox error.  So i am not banned.  But the interesting thing is that when i first started to fix it i just decided to change the hard drive with one that i knew wasnt banned and the error i got was a network error.  Does anyone have a clue on what could be wrong.

[Optimus]

In answer to the question above, I have used tunneling software before (X-Link), but I haven't used it for about a year now. So I don't think it was related to my banning.

gfreire: Try a new eeprom. I have seen that sometimes the eeprom can just be a dud, usually a replacement fixes it right up.

[PhatheadWRX]

say theoretically it is game saves...  would there be any way for all of the homrebrew software guys to change the save from E: to say maybe F:?

My only thinking about the saves, if MS is scanning drives...
I'm sure MS would check the C: drive before the E: since all the real important (and easy to check) stuff is on C:, and most modders have to add files to the C: for their dashes, ect...