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CloakedHunter

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The Thread for a *possible* new banning system
« Reply #165 on: October 31, 2004, 08:24:00 AM »
Well, I did a few things last night:
- Installed Avalaunch (F Drive)
- Installed XBMC (F Drive)
- Installed dvd2xbox (F Drive)
- Played the game on DVD.

I'm still unbanned this morning for 108 hours (4.5 days).

Has anyone heard from Miggidy? Hello???
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GamezMan

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« Reply #166 on: October 31, 2004, 11:07:00 AM »
Yeah it looking as if we can do all the stuff we did before, iv been on xlink and xbc last 2 days and its fine.....

So Cloak
But we still havn't learned as much as we think... like when u got banned with ur 1st test(as others have also with same setup), for all they know (m$) and we know u could have gotten a brand new xbox unmoded, or borrowed a friend unmodded xbox. but u still got banned, surly that would be illigal !!! so they must have a way to find out that it was ethier the same xbox or another modded 1.

Hope some-1 figures this out soon..
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GamezMan

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« Reply #167 on: October 31, 2004, 01:42:00 PM »
Phunnybonz

If youv'e NEVER BEEN BANNED BEFORE u can change hdd after being on XBL..

Most of ur points are ONLY if u have been banned before....

XBL isn't lookng for Halo2 but maby for hacked files
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Phunnybonz

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« Reply #168 on: October 31, 2004, 07:36:00 PM »
QUOTE (GamezMan @ Oct 31 2004, 10:45 PM)
If youv'e NEVER BEEN BANNED BEFORE u can change hdd after being on XBL..

Dude, are you POSITIVE about that?  Don't get me wrong, I'm not questioning what you are saying, I'm just trying to make sure I am understanding correctly. This would mean that XBL security is ONLY cross checking eeprom & hdd info if you've signed on with a hacked bios? So could I put one of your banned hdds in my xbox and sign on and NOT get banned?
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GamezMan

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« Reply #169 on: October 31, 2004, 08:20:00 PM »
Not 100% but .....quite sure

Dont know about putting a "banned" hdd in maby u could ( im sure i a guy in a diff thred  tryed it and it worked) but u can put any bigger hdd in an not get banned (if u anit been banned befor that is).

I dont know how there securityworks or what kinds of checks they do on who... seens like no-1 realy knows as yet ...
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« Reply #170 on: October 31, 2004, 08:48:00 PM »
Well, I got banned the other last week for the very FIRST time, and the chip was off 100% sure. I have an X3, w/ live blocked. MS dash had Autosign in enabled though.
I have a 250Gb HD. It was in there when I set up my Live account over a year ago.
So I replaced the EEPROM, with a fresh one, Im sure because I modded the box it came  out of. But I disnt replace the HD.And ran account recovery. I got banned again with the chip off, and this time MS dash auto-sign in was off. It was almost immediately. I logged in, logged off, logged back in, and that was that. I never have had that french game on it, nor any hacked saves. I do use evox trainers, and dashboards are installed on C:\, Apps on E:\, Emus and Games on F:\.

I have another XBOX with an AladdinADV64 and a stock 10 Gb, with F:\ formatted.
Dashboards on C:\, Apps on E:\, nothing on F:\ but it has been partitioned and formatted. This XBOX plays on XBLive with a different gamertag everyday with no probs. And it has all kinds of profiles from that french game.

I am going to flash a new EEPROM tomorrow and install a stock 10gb HD, with only MS files on it, adn see if I can stay on Live.

I also have another XBOX that has never been on Live, with a 120Gb. I am going to set up a fresh account on it tomorrow too.
Will post back with results.
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gamerguy999

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« Reply #171 on: October 31, 2004, 09:15:00 PM »
I've got a question.
I have been using a xbox live trial with my stock hard drive, but the trial just ended. I have not been banned. Can I use another xbox live trial on the same xbox but with my 160GB hard drive? I will be making another gamertag, so I will not be using the same one.

Another thing, I downloaded a thing that has modified maps for halo, do I need to delete this and my cache drive before I use a new xbox live trial or do those matter?
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« Reply #172 on: November 01, 2004, 05:53:00 AM »
QUOTE (Phunnybonz @ Nov 1 2004, 02:39 PM)
Dude, are you POSITIVE about that?  Don't get me wrong, I'm not questioning what you are saying, I'm just trying to make sure I am understanding correctly. This would mean that XBL security is ONLY cross checking eeprom & hdd info if you've signed on with a hacked bios?

I tested this myself.  I've been on XBL for a year.  A little over a week ago (with all this talk about new bannings) I decided to test swapping HDDs.  I started my own thread about the experiment, but Shanafan decided it would be more useful if it were merged into this thread (you'll find my post if you want to sift through this whole thread).

Anyway, the result of my experiment was that I did not get banned for simply swapping HDDs.  I took out a stock Seagate HDD, replaced it with a 160G HDD, and after a week of still being on XBL, I swapped them back again.  I'm still on XBL without a banning.

As GamezMan said, swapping HDDs only causes a problem if you've been banned before.
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Penfoldian

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« Reply #173 on: November 01, 2004, 06:14:00 AM »
RIGHT!
GOT A FRIEND IN A SPOT A OF BOTHER!

I NEED TO KNOW....

1. NEW HDD NEW EEPROM = XBOXLIVE! ?? (unbanned)

Reason why I ask cause these threads are getting so confusing, people saying it dont work u still get banned etc....
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A.Z.BEST

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« Reply #174 on: November 01, 2004, 07:40:00 AM »
QUOTE (Phunnybonz @ Oct 31 2004, 10:07 PM)
Hey, A.Z.Best? Would it be possible for you to update the First post with what is known so far? I've been following this thread & I'm not sure I KNOW what's known so far. biggrin.gif

Here's what I think we know, correct me if I'm wrong.

Stock Xbox using XBL:
If you intend to mod it and upgrade the hdd you'll have to also change your eeprom since you are changing your hdd. This makes XBL think you are using a different Xbox.

Modded xbox using XBL, never been banned:
You have no worries, just do NOT change your hdd without also changing your eeprom. This makes XBL think you are using a different Xbox.

Modded xbox not on XBL but thinking of signing up:
You have no worries, just do NOT change your hdd without also changing your eeprom. Or change your hdd BEFORE signing up.

Modded xbox on XBL, previously banned:
You'll have to change your hdd & eeprom for sure. You may also have to change your gamer tag. This is unclear.

Things that are unclear:
-If gamer tag is flagged once you've been banned
-If XBL is looking for hacked game saves
-If XBL is looking for saves from French game, or English leak

None of this is sure, but I'll add it as "the most probable". But; as you've heard, it's safe to change the hdd if you've never been banned.
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A.Z.BEST

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« Reply #175 on: November 02, 2004, 03:20:00 AM »
smile.gif.

DeresDK: 1000kr for a new Xbox at www.computercity.dk biggrin.gif. You can also buy an used console (if it's not modded).
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redneon

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« Reply #176 on: November 02, 2004, 03:29:00 AM »
Ok, there seems to be some intelligent people on this post. Does someone want to look at my new post...

http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=299473

I'm looking into stopping MS packets before they reach the Xbox but I may need a little help and am hoping someone on here can help. By the way, I also have a few 2 month trial serials if anyone's interested to aid their testing. They're for PAL UK games though so I don't know if that makes a difference.
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A.Z.BEST

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« Reply #177 on: November 02, 2004, 03:39:00 AM »
QUOTE (bbanka @ Nov 2 2004, 12:31 PM)
one more question A.Z.BEST®

how do you think about using new eeprom and different HD used in a modded-

xbox before but never been banned.I have a 80g HD used before changing to

200g HD and I have connected to XBL with 80g HD for three mounths. but never

been banned with it

There shall be no problems. But you can change the EEPROM if you want to. It's all up to you actually. Maybe is a bit risky, but I think that there shall be no problems- as I said it smile.gif.
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« Reply #178 on: November 02, 2004, 05:19:00 AM »
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« Reply #179 on: November 02, 2004, 06:52:00 AM »
In a STOCK MS HDD what exactly what files are on the C: partition? And all this talk of game saves... I have gamesaves from "backed up" games that are on my f: partition (I'm assuming they're stored on E:) and maybe one or two saves from various emulators (no idea where those saves would be). Am I to understand I could copy those saves to a memory card to keep my E: free when I subscribe to xbl?

I made another post byut no one has answered it yet so I'll ask here...

Xecuter2 4983 with DMS X-bit
250gb wd hdd
c:\evoxdash.xbe
    xboxdash.xbe
    (few miscellaneous folders I can't remember)

e: all gamesaves I'm assuming?

f: \appz
    games

g: games

x,y,z all cached game data


Never been banned and I want to try to sign up for xblive (though I did use xbconnect when I had a bios prior to xecuter2 4980 but my dash hadn't been updated by xbl to do the autologin shindig so I think I'm safe from that.) I turned my chip off last night and went thru the registration process thinking I could buy a trial subscription code off of their website but to no avail.  I'll be a guinea pig if someone will tell me what to do, how to prep, and bum me one of those two month trial subscription codes. If I get banned I'll just buy another xbox. But I'm pretty sure I have exactly the setup yall want to test.
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