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Orangey

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« on: October 15, 2004, 03:43:00 PM »

I bet it has to do with the recent "stuff" that has been floating around in those "usual places"..
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2004, 04:02:00 PM »

I've got two spontaneously banned boxes here. Both TSOP flash with switch. Both with large drives, and both with recent eeprom changes. I should mention they are at different locations, so different IP's and such. No "stuff" on the boxes. Just media center, emulators and games backed up off disc. Don't trust the downloads. Besides that nothing special. Well I think that covers it. I hope we get more posts in here.
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Orangey

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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2004, 04:06:00 PM »

Maybe has to do with EEPROM Changes? If they know the Serial # of your HD, and your banned. Then you flash your EEPROM and your HD Serial stays the same. So that MS sees that something is wrong.

Then again, I'm not on the up & up about XBOX Hardware, and what MS can see. That is just the first thing that popped into my head.

It seems for the MOST part, that all the recent bannings have been with people who replaced their EEPROMs:

In the recent thread about this:

http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=289697

There were 11 people that were banned in the past couple days. All of them had replaced their EEPROMs recently.

Users: wlinwo1
         Sakuraik
         xbs1
         bigslickak
         Jimmy38
         blingbling
         bluewoodz
         Optimus (yourself smile.gif )
         Matarick
         Tsharkou
         swervf4

I believe that this might have to be that MS is pissed at the moment.. And people who were banned once and got around their Ban are getting banned again...Because they reflashed their EEPROM.
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heinrich

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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2004, 04:26:00 PM »

There are 2 issues though...
some users are getting their ACCOUNT cancelled, not just their xbox banned.
others are just the normal modded xbox bans.
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Orangey

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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2004, 04:30:00 PM »

Yeah. The timing is quite ironic...

I'm not really sure what to make of it. As long as I stay unbanned that's all that really matters. But I would truly like to know what's going on behind the scenes. Seems that their tolerance on who to Ban has just been drastically decreased. Maybe it's time to go back to Stock Config until this all is figured out.
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assmonkey

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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2004, 10:07:00 PM »

ok, i think the banning is because of a softmod
i know someone with stock hd and never changed eeprom but had the ude2 to boot evox even using the origanl dvds get account cancel
and everybody i know who got account cancel had a soft running
so i don't believe ude2 is safe anymore

so i don;t think its a hd scan
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sakuraix

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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2004, 10:16:00 PM »

(I hope) everybody knows that you should not access Live in any way while having UDE/UDE2 installed.  Accessing Live with UDE means BAN.  The problem is, I got banned while I had UDE uninstalled.  Also, most of the people here that were banned the last two days had chips.
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2004, 09:10:00 AM »

What I don't get it the non consistancy of banning the XBL accounts as well. Some get them, some do not. I have not, and have not tried re-flashing my eeprom. There is something static like the hd ser# or something of that nature, that does not change even after the eeprom change. I know there is an option to change the mac address in the network config so that cannot be it. Like the other person as well stated, the message that xbl can't be used came up almost instantly, which tells me that we were banned before even going on. That in itself contradicts most of what we know that M$ can't ban you until you go online with your chip on. On the eeprom purchased side, I bought mine from zodiiak <sp?> on here..

I wonder if GT's are linked with something like the hd ser#..cuz what if you were at your friends house with your xbl account over there playing a game.. you couldn't connect on that xbox as well, or could you play just fine? I think we are all looking that the xbox itself is banned, which is currently what we know. Has anyone actually gotten another xbox, unmodded, did an account recovery <knowing you didn't get a letter from M$> and are back on live? It is looking like that is the route I am going to go..

It's nice to see people come together and help each other, and maybe figure this thing out.
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2004, 11:35:00 AM »

Gamezman Banned twice in a week

Whats a "ude2"  and are u sure its not the mac address, can it be changed-proper,, not just on-screen ????

Gamezman Banned twice in a week

Gamezman Banned twice in a week


Gamezman Banned twice in a week
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Maverick923

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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2004, 09:14:00 PM »

After doing some reading and from what I see with my situation, I would have to say live is somehow detecting modified boxes. One person I know with a fixed box and a stock drive got banned with his chip off. I have never been banned until Thursday when they canceled my account aswell. Before that I had been playing for months with no problems. I played the night before I was banned with my chip off. M$ thinks they can do what they want, well they basically banned alot of business. This makes no sense. They cant make money from paid subscribers this way. So there is only one thing I can ask.

WHAT THE HELL IS M$ DOING?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2004, 10:08:00 PM »

i had my xbox modded for like 8 months and never got banned, played live all the time, i bought another xbox a month before the 8 month above to mod for my sister, since i had the other box and my sister hadnt gave me the cash for it yet i decided to go on live to play with buddies in GRIT because another friend of mine had my original, i played the whole the night like 6 hours till 3 and the next day i couldnt get back on, i was banned, so i kept the other bax and transferred my gamertag to it through the memory card and havent had any problems since and still play it, recently i screwed up the chipped box and had to move the chip into the non chipped box, i had a 120 gig drive in the old one that crashed and i couldnt load even a boot disk, so i moved the chip to the unmodded boc put in a 160 gig and have be on live for over a week with no problems, every back up i make  i take out the updatedsah.xbe stuff and leave it at that, i would have to say it something with eeprom matching, even though you flashed your eeprom do you really know how many other people might actually have that epprom, maybe that is the case who knows but id have to say id rule out the upgraded HDD cause i played with one installed for quite some time
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2004, 10:18:00 PM »

My xbox in my bedroom has been banned and it has a stock drive. The one in my living room has been banned with a 250gb drive. Its not the drives. I do not mean to tell everyone they are wrong, but i think that micro$oft is looking at the other .xbe's and your XBMC and other tools configuration settings that are stored WITH YOUR SAVED GAMES. Go ahead and load up your default dashboard and browse your saved games. You will see xbox media center, unleashx, avalaunch etc. F drive and G drive is SAFE from live since the stock bios cannot see it,  and my stock hard drive in my bedroom is banned as well. Never changed the hard drive out in it and its banned. I have another stock unmodded box at my computer that is not banned. So if they are not looking at software, then they are looking at the LPC's or D0 somehow.

The people that got the infamous "HD Check" code from xbox live might want to look at the code we are getting now to determine what Live is looking for EXACTLY so we can remedy this situation. Too bad Halo 2 is so anticipated or we could boycott the friggen thing.
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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2004, 12:12:00 AM »

Do all you guys have a password for you live accounts so that nothing can access live without the password?  Because i just started playing on live about a month ago with a 2 month trial card and i have been playing online just fine with my chip off.  I have a 200GB hard drive with many programs and backed up games on it and i have yet to be banned.  I'm just asking because m$ is starting to get pretty sly about how they do things now.  I work at hollywood video and today i rented the new van helsing dvd and i was reading the back cover and i came to find out that if you put that dvd in your xbox you can play the first level of the van helsing game for the xbox.  So i put it in my xbox and looked at what it had on the dvd with avalaunch and saw that it had a dashupdate.xbe and a 262MB default.xbe.  And i remembered how people accidently got banned because battlefront would connect to live right away at startup without your consent.  So i'm just thinking that maybe m$ is starting to do with with dvd movies also.  Also, isnt that something important too? that the xbox ran a .xbe off a dvd that didnt have the encryption key? or something like that?  Cause i remember reading something like that on x-s news one day, i think it was with star wars trilogy or something.
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2004, 12:32:00 AM »

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And i remembered how people accidently got banned because battlefront would connect to live right away at startup without your consent.


Come to think about it, i did copy Battlefront to my hard drive and played it from it a few times from the HD. Maybe thats what did it? Too many people though. Maybe more games do that than we think.....

I think thats a unauthorized communication though.... connecting to live without our consent. I didnt ask to connect to live just like I dont ask for spam in my email. Invasion of privacy even. I dunno. Not a lawyer though, but I would assume its a illegal collection of information.
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2004, 12:39:00 AM »

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