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shanafan

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« Reply #75 on: March 06, 2004, 03:35:00 PM »

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And we expect the next funny things soon.
(buy a smartxx and you are on the secure side)

SmartXX team will present a method for "preventing" this problem the next week(s).

Oh gawd..

This is making more sense now. This is beginning to turn into a marketing ploy..
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randomidiot

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« Reply #76 on: March 06, 2004, 03:39:00 PM »

I am not suprised about the SmartXX people saying they'll have a solution..
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The LukeMan

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« Reply #77 on: March 06, 2004, 03:39:00 PM »

IM GOING ON LIVE RITE NOW TO SEE !!!
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shanafan

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« Reply #78 on: March 06, 2004, 03:40:00 PM »

QUOTE (randomidiot @ Mar 6 2004, 08:39 PM)
I am not suprised about the SmartXX people saying they'll have a solution..

Exactly. The ones who release the "code", have the fix.

How fitting
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« Reply #79 on: March 06, 2004, 03:40:00 PM »

QUOTE (shanafan @ Mar 7 2004, 01:35 AM)
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And we expect the next funny things soon.
(buy a smartxx and you are on the secure side)

SmartXX team will present a method for "preventing" this problem the next week(s).

Oh gawd..

This is making more sense now. This is beginning to turn into a marketing ploy..

Exactly ure spot on there i reckon,

they release a solution soon

people think oo this smart xx know what there on about lets buy a smart xx to be super safe in the future.

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« Reply #80 on: March 06, 2004, 03:42:00 PM »

go get em trailer
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« Reply #81 on: March 06, 2004, 03:43:00 PM »

dont argue over the teams reliability because nothign has been proven/disproven instead look at the code that they posted and confirm it.  at the very least then we will know that ms is checking regardless if they are banning
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« Reply #82 on: March 06, 2004, 03:44:00 PM »

QUOTE (shanafan @ Mar 6 2004, 07:40 PM)
QUOTE (randomidiot @ Mar 6 2004, 08:39 PM)
I am not suprised about the SmartXX people saying they'll have a solution..

Exactly. The ones who release the "code", have the fix.

How fitting

wow that would be horrible... how about that guy thats trying to get on (the lukeman) .. how did it go?
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« Reply #83 on: March 06, 2004, 03:44:00 PM »

been on ALL WEEK, about 6 different games

I have a 200GB seagate
THIS IS A CROCK OF SHIT
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« Reply #84 on: March 06, 2004, 03:45:00 PM »

if you look at the dissassembed code where it shows you the check for the hdd serials and also look at older versions of live it provides for the same checks. this isnt a new detection built into the live service. its been done for quite sometime now. as well i beleive this is a marketing ploy for smartxx. also i beleive it is not a very educated one. if this was a serious threat for the scene... wouldnt it be fairly easy to modify the kernal api that does the check to always return a valid serial number? the only way xbox live can get the serial number from the hdd would be to make an api call in kernal mode to get it. it wouldnt be able to directly access the hdd information. since we can modify the bios, we would be able to modify this check. just like cracking any sort of computer programs. im sure it wouldnt be nearly as easy as i am making it sound, and corrent me if im wrong it should be theoretically possible if done by the right people. thats just my 2 cents.
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« Reply #85 on: March 06, 2004, 03:46:00 PM »

QUOTE (Muntzster @ Mar 7 2004, 01:44 AM)
QUOTE (shanafan @ Mar 6 2004, 07:40 PM)
QUOTE (randomidiot @ Mar 6 2004, 08:39 PM)
I am not suprised about the SmartXX people saying they'll have a solution..

Exactly. The ones who release the "code", have the fix.

How fitting

wow that would be horrible... how about that guy thats trying to get on (the lukeman) .. how did it go?

me lukeman n 2 other british guys are online now in the same room its goin fine.

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hmm i can smell something......

smells like bullshit
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The LukeMan

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« Reply #86 on: March 06, 2004, 03:46:00 PM »

Yeh smartxx propaganda i tell thee
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« Reply #87 on: March 06, 2004, 03:46:00 PM »

QUOTE (Signo @ Mar 6 2004, 08:13 PM)
If this is true i cant see what logical sense it would make for M$ to ban for a larger HD.  They still get your sub money from your account. And you have to use retail games to play on live.If they banned us we would prob not renew our sub or have much reason to buy retail originals. This would make there online gaming market percentage drop. Which is one thing they like to brag about. Or you would have to buy a second box, making sales go up slightly, but not enough to make the box statistics look any better so i cant see what is to be gained by doing this. Any one have a thought on this.

that is how i feel about this as well...why would MS shoot themselves in the foot...look at this community...i know ive gotten TONS of people to spend money to buy MS's console....and a lot of these people had no interest what so ever until i turned them onto the idea....and yes for some LIVE IS A SELLING POINT (disabling the mod chip)

the fact of the matter still remains...i play on live with my modded xbox and i still bought some games and i still bought a live subscription...it would just be stupid if MS were to ban people for actually BUYING their products (and also being salemen for them)

fuck it...i got another box if i need it....im signing on live and just sitting at the dash till i decide to play some r6 later...deadfukkr will be on live all night!!

and if this comes out to be a ploy from smartxx then there goes all my respect i would have had for them and their new chip...if this is true and people do start getting banned then then cheers for them.....but im not holding my breathe or taking any caution with this.....

as far as im concerned at the moment *shakes head* im not gonna freak out about it and i suggest no one else does...
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« Reply #88 on: March 06, 2004, 03:46:00 PM »

cool.gif  It could be a impromptu suvey of sorts, maybe to check what kinds of xboxes are using live ie, if they have the drives found in 1.0, 1.1, and maybe using that information to see what group of xbox owners are using live the most.  Im not sure why they would implement the check for this reason, but its a possibility nonetheless.

C)  Maybe an additional means to make sure that the Xbox is in fact and Xbox console and not an emulator ran on the PC.  Now I know none of the emulators out right now are anywhere close to Live connectivity nor would there ever be any reason for them to support it, but it would be a safeguard against any future Xbox emus that try to aim for Live compatibility.

On a personal note, I got SB: LoC about a week and a half ago and have played it on average 3 hours every day since.  I have had no problems accessing Live (Past a DNS server problem a few days back), so I know im not banned as of the time of this message.  Of course, as previously suggested MS could just be gathering the information before they start banning users, but the main counterpoint to this is like I said in (A), such a move would only hurt them as they already have a bulletproof defense against modchippers going onto Live.

Basically, take a breath people.  With the amount of info given, the way it was given, and only from one source, this info has about as much weight as the hundreds of other rumors that have turned out to be false.  If you want to stay off of Live to err on the side of safety thats up to you, but if youve already been on Live like myself at least wait until more concrete evidence on this issue comes to light before you start ripping out harddrives and swapping eeproms.
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« Reply #89 on: March 06, 2004, 03:47:00 PM »

thats what i was saying its probably just some code found thats been there since day one they scan to see if you have a outdated xbox live dash do they not? when they do it gives them reason to update it and even so this is funny how smartXX just seems to be looking for more people to rival with just like Xtantium how they seem to be showing whos more powerfull and who can do what this is all a bunch of bs
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