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[RideBurton164]

[The LukeMan]

[ti85man]

I've read this whole thing and there's one thing that doesn't make sense to me.

SmartXX released this and said THEY would have a fix for it so buy a chip from THEM and you'll be secure.....

sure fine and dandy even if you believe it... but HOW THE HELL IS A MODCHIP GUNNA FIX THE PROBLEM WHEN YOU HAVE TO DISABLE THE CHIP TO GO ON LIVE!!!!


DUH!!!  what a joke....  Guess I'll go pull that rabbit out of my ass now and submit it as news...

[Tidusblitz111]

Can we just delete the xboxlive2.bin file? huh, huh? If we delete that, it's all good!

[marksu]

QUOTE (MaJeSTiK @ Mar 8 2004, 04:58 PM)

QUOTE (The LukeMan @ Mar 8 2004, 04:10 PM) and mr wibbly may i suggest if possible you using a X2 4981 bios  then you wont get banned for having chip on !  Wtf? i got a cheap mod LPC or something but can i install xcecuter bios on it? And you dont get banned?

He ment that X2 4981 prevents a user accidently connecting to Live when having mod powered.

[smo]

QUOTE (oz_paulb @ Mar 8 2004, 01:59 PM)

But, if it is encrypted, then the decryption code exists in the XBL game that's talking to Live.  So, for someone familiar with reverse-engineering, it would be easy to track down the decrypt code and re-implement it as a standalone app on a PC (just as SmartXX have done with the signature verification code).

I think the transport channel is probably encrypted using PKI with a private key generated on-the-fly in the Xbox. That would mean you'd have to have access to the Xbox's memory to get the private key to decrypt it. Although if the code is signed, you couldn't tamper with it and encryption wouldn't be necessary. If that's true, one could implement a man-in-the-middle attack to change the reply packet to show the details for the original hard drive. But I doubt MS would leave something like this open to attack...

[ti85man]

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When SmartXX was designed, we sit together and thought for all possible methods MS can do. And this has nothing to do with the already detection issue. The Hdd detection was basically an old idea, we already had been confused, that MS not did it long time now. Proofs: Boys, look to Xbox-scene forums, you find i think 1000 people who had ben locked out of Xbox-live the last 10 days. Yes, this hdd detection code already active since days. And we expect the next funny things soon. (buy a smartxx and you are on the secure side) SmartXX team will present a method for "preventing" this problem the next week(s). hampti

Hmm.... right off the same topic in their message boards...

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(buy a smartxx and you are on the secure side)

^sure looks like they said to buy a chip from them don't it?

EDIT: oh forgot... how do you propose with no mod function or shall I say booting from original bios, can you load something into memory on the xbox without getting control of the current pointer in memory which is only controlled by signed M$ code without a hacked bios?  Sure I could be wrong, but its just seems retarded to think a modchip can fix an xbox live problem....  11 dipshits... no just ONE......

[kakelkund]

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where in that do you see smartxx trying to sell you their chip?

Here:
"(buy a smartxx and you are on the secure side)

SmartXX team will present a method for "preventing" this problem the next week(s)."
http://www.smartxx.c...4d830d5c6391c05

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where do they say ms is going to ban you?

Here:
"Xbox Live is now checking each Xbox to see if the hard drive has been replaced. If your hard drive is any different than the one it came with, you will be banned, even if your new hard drive is locked."

[NightL1fe]

Another thing i dont understand why people keep saying..
"oh well, cancel XBL and there's still XLINK and Xbox connect"
every since when did XLINK or XboxConnect support or hacked Xbox Live enabled games? there is surely x3 times the amount if not more of xbox live titles than   47 titles system link enabled titles

PSO online ?
World Class Pool?
Conflict Dersert Storm II?
Capcom vs SNK2?

[Cookiesrus]

[Ces2k3]

u not even worth the flame man so u wouldnt mind if the modded xbox  messes  up cause they put a update in a game u backed up? yeah ok if u dont mind then cool but i do

[heinrich]

QUOTE (ti85man @ Mar 8 2004, 12:02 PM)

I've read this whole thing and there's one thing that doesn't make sense to me. SmartXX released this and said THEY would have a fix for it so buy a chip from THEM and you'll be secure..... sure fine and dandy even if you believe it... but HOW THE HELL IS A MODCHIP GUNNA FIX THE PROBLEM WHEN YOU HAVE TO DISABLE THE CHIP TO GO ON LIVE!!!! DUH!!!  what a joke....  Guess I'll go pull that rabbit out of my ass now and submit it as news...

Did you read this whole thread before posting?

You can use a modbios on live, and someone can make a bios that only works on their chip.

[heinrich]

QUOTE (offie_ @ Mar 8 2004, 09:11 AM)

ahh - your forgetting.. some bioses now have a built in FTP server (e.g. the latest XECUTER release) so you can go into it whilst on live (which would be mad, cause your just banning yourself deliberatly. offie

huh ?
You cant use that bios on live, and the ftp server is *not* active during gameplay.

edit: oh, its not in the latest, there have been 3 versions of the x2 since then, none with an embedded xbe.

[ti85man]

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Did you read this whole thread before posting?

yes

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You can use a modbios on live

not to question your authority...but isn't that one thing we know is checked by live, the bios hash? if you could run a modbios on live you could play backups on live... have I missed huge news or just not understanding you...

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and someone can make a bios that only works on their chip

yes, understandable, but this goes back to the second quote....don't know how you can load a non original bios and get on live....


all I know is that I'll only believe it when I see everyone get banned...

[heinrich]

ti85man, read the first 20 pages of the xbox 1.4/1.5 thread in the xecuter forum, and/or read through hamtitampti's and Troed's post history.  And really dont think that you did read this thread, because myself and Troed have repeated this several times.

harrytasker, because if they release a modbios that allows you to run unsigned code, MS will come down hard on the modding community (IMO)
And what features besides that would be desired in a retail bios?  Maybe the ability to boot with an unlocked drive.  x2 style IGR would do no good because it would simply restart the game.