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[heinrich]

cap269,  It is modified, no?
Lets play this out:
You get on live with a 120 gig hard drive.
They ban you.
You call your lawyer, and even go to court.
MS's lawyer: "Was your xbox modified from its original condition"
You: "Yes"
MS's lawyer: "Was that a MS authorized upgrade/repair"
You: "No"
<MS's lawyer reads part 7 of the terms of use>

I dont your arguement ?

[The LukeMan]

me too going with bull

and theres been no updates for xbox live making this code possible right

no new updates for liv for a while as i remember

[OCFlounder]

I vote BULL!!!

[chase_317]

If this is true, then F*ck Bill Gates, and  Fu*k MS.  Ive had a modded Xbox for over a year, and dont have one game on my HD that I dont own.  If this is true, I will put every Xbox game on it.  I have the space and I wont pay for a single one of them.

[P-Child]

[pROvIs]

QUOTE (Cutriss @ Mar 6 2004, 11:04 PM)

The rash of people recently banned that was referred to is a largely unrelated manner. It's mostly been C2/0000 or C2/AFFF errors lately and people just screwing their network settings up. People are *saying* they're banned, but the facts don't actually show that. I think the important thing to look at is this - SmartXX claims to have a method in place to circumvent the ban. However, if MS has had this check in place for a long time, then they'll basically be ready to ban your Xbox at any given time. No SmartXX chip will save your ass, unless you buy it in a brand new box (or refurb, but I digress), or (in theory) switch EEPROMs after installing the chip. And somehow, I don't think there would be enough EEPROMs to go around for all the people needing to switch if the hammer does indeed fall.

SmartXX never claimed to have a method complete only that they are working on one to stop this but even they were suprised at this move my MS and the shear complexity of fixing not only your hdds serial and model but its size as well.  read smartxx and talk to the developers before making statements like that.  It has only been assumed in these forums that they made such a claim.

[pROvIs]

QUOTE (Psykomantis00 @ Mar 7 2004, 01:08 AM)

I think this is all propaganda for people to buy their chip. I actually and happy with my Ex 2.3 Pro and dont want a ShitXX chip. People that lie to sell shit piss me off. If I could connect to live I might try to get on it but I cant remimber which cable it is (I have 4 and only one is connected to the router the others are cross connects.) Ill try to figure it out later. But I doubt this is at all probable (yet possible) just a bunch of shit. Ill try it out a little later or just make a new cable or something in a min. The if I get banned (which isnt at all likely) would someone donate an extra EE-Prom or something.

Well if they are lying they have support from a bunch of respected people in the scene.  I dont think you realize yet that it is not so much in questions if MS is checking but [if] they are banning].

[pROvIs]

QUOTE (P-Child @ Mar 7 2004, 01:14 AM)

QUOTE (Cutriss @ Mar 7 2004, 05:04 AM) The rash of people recently banned that was referred to is a largely unrelated manner. It's mostly been C2/0000 or C2/AFFF errors lately and people just screwing their network settings up. People are *saying* they're banned, but the facts don't actually show that. I think the important thing to look at is this - SmartXX claims to have a method in place to circumvent the ban. However, if MS has had this check in place for a long time, then they'll basically be ready to ban your Xbox at any given time. No SmartXX chip will save your ass, unless you buy it in a brand new box (or refurb, but I digress), or (in theory) switch EEPROMs after installing the chip. And somehow, I don't think there would be enough EEPROMs to go around for all the people needing to switch if the hammer does indeed fall. hmmm this is interesting, i couldnt get my router (dlink 604) to work with xbox live so i flashed it this morning before i powered up my xbox then the modified message came up, apparently this router is xbox live comp but its not working for me my xbox is setup for dhcp

same thing happened to me a few days ago p-child.  but im still not certain that i didnt acidently log in to live with a modded bios not realizing it because i was installing the chip the first time and it started to auto login to live through the ms dash.

[pROvIs]

QUOTE (OUberLord @ Mar 7 2004, 01:25 AM)

QUOTE And we expect the next funny things soon. (buy a smartxx and you are on the secure side) SmartXX team will present a method for "preventing" this problem the next week(s). Cutriss wasnt out of line when he made that post.  If the checks have been started to be collected in order to idenfity those to ban, no chip will save you if youve ben on live.

not yet

[assmonkey]

M$ pretty much makes all there money on live
finding more ways for banning ,just makes people not want to use it anyomore

the real point for canceling ,is to show M$ there real lost

[cap269]

P-Child, what are your XYZ codes?

If you don't know what that means, it's in this thread http://forums.xbox-s...ST&f=53&t=14993

[da_frog]

I never used live but still i could be wrong but all of this information sounds like total bullshit ms releases everything in the xdk a month in advance and i dont see no hd detection in the newest version sounds kinda fake to me and i have support for my answer
#1. this info was released by a modchip producer not some kind of god like hacker
#2. its not in the xdk
#3.wouldnt they break some kind of law or something if they did this???

...of course like i said I could be wrong and If I am im gonna hunt bill down or hack the live servers or sumtin

[heinrich]

QUOTE

this info was released by a modchip producer not some kind of god like hacker

franz/hamtitampti isn't exactly a newb  

[C4TRMNTOR]

MS may be collecting HD data because they want to study what size HDs people are using in their Xboxes. Then they'll probably tally it all out and come up with a median. What ever the most used HD size that Xbox owners are using, may be applied to the production of the Xbox 2's HD in the future. It's still fairly unknown if it's going to have a HD or not. This all makes the most sense to me. I don't think MS are all of a sudden going to turn larger HDs against their users and subscribers. I mean what's the point? I read somewhere that MS tends to turn it's head away when it comes to modchips (unless it involves illegal activity). I guarantee no one's going to be banned for using a larger HD, I mean they've been collecting this data all along right? And has anyone been banned with their modchip off? No.

[arjkar]

anyhow if this was done, you could keep the retail and use a switch to enable/disable it along with the modchip to play on live.... not really that good idea though...