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[shanafan]

QUOTE (Crusader @ Jun 18 2003, 08:40 AM)

How quickly shana changes his tune. Backups will be playable on Live, it's just a matter of time. I think cheating is lame and personally have never tried it with a PC game. You still have to pay for the Xbox Live subscription which won't exactly be cheap after this term runs out. But I'd like to stop having to use the crappy stock dvd rom and load backups of my games to play online, as well as continue to use my other mods.

I never changed my "tune".

[XbOxGoD]

QUOTE (Crusader @ Jun 18 2003, 08:15 PM)

QUOTE (XbOxGoD @ Jun 18 2003, 08:27 PM) QUOTE (Crusader @ Jun 18 2003, 12:40 PM) How quickly shana changes his tune. Backups will be playable on Live, it's just a matter of time. I think cheating is lame and personally have never tried it with a PC game. You still have to pay for the Xbox Live subscription which won't exactly be cheap after this term runs out. But I'd like to stop having to use the crappy stock dvd rom and load backups of my games to play online, as well as continue to use my other mods. i find my "stock" dvd rom loads all my original games fine. u wanna play on live buy the game. runour is that anyone who does find a way to use the 007 hack to play backups will be ravaged by m$ lawyers straight away, as no doubt it will use m$ code. i love live play, and i don't wan't freeloaders pissing on my games Do you know much of a sally you sound like? ooooooh, I'm scared of MS' big bad lawyers. Breakthroughs are rarely made anymore that are due to the efforts of one person. MS will have to go after a countless a number of individuals who live across the entire earth that contribute to a xbox hacking endeavor. They can prosecute one person or group but it doesn't end the cause...just look at modchips or any of the major xbox hacking acheivements. MS can't keep up. If there were less people here that didn't have their mouths permanantly pressed into Bill Gates' crotch, a lot more progress would be made.

lol

scared? lol i'm not going to get into a flame war. but i'm certainly not scared, just want people to pay their way sometime. i don't want the xbox to go the way of the DC and that is what will happen if people sap all profit from developers. why would a developer bother to include live play thru a system that allows people to do it without buying the original game. bah

[bombzhome]

XboxG0d ur sig is freaky!

[XbOxGoD]

QUOTE (bombzhome @ Jun 18 2003, 08:22 PM)

XboxG0d ur sig is freaky!

lol good isn't it. personally i'm more creeped out by the gay spiderman avatar.

i've had people pm about my sig, being scared that everyone can see your I.P

YOU CAN ONLY SEE YOUR OWN IP

lol

[Crusader]

QUOTE (XbOxGoD @ Jun 18 2003, 09:21 PM)

QUOTE (Crusader @ Jun 18 2003, 08:15 PM) QUOTE (XbOxGoD @ Jun 18 2003, 08:27 PM) QUOTE (Crusader @ Jun 18 2003, 12:40 PM) How quickly shana changes his tune. Backups will be playable on Live, it's just a matter of time. I think cheating is lame and personally have never tried it with a PC game. You still have to pay for the Xbox Live subscription which won't exactly be cheap after this term runs out. But I'd like to stop having to use the crappy stock dvd rom and load backups of my games to play online, as well as continue to use my other mods. i find my "stock" dvd rom loads all my original games fine. u wanna play on live buy the game. runour is that anyone who does find a way to use the 007 hack to play backups will be ravaged by m$ lawyers straight away, as no doubt it will use m$ code. i love live play, and i don't wan't freeloaders pissing on my games Do you know much of a sally you sound like? ooooooh, I'm scared of MS' big bad lawyers. Breakthroughs are rarely made anymore that are due to the efforts of one person. MS will have to go after a countless a number of individuals who live across the entire earth that contribute to a xbox hacking endeavor. They can prosecute one person or group but it doesn't end the cause...just look at modchips or any of the major xbox hacking acheivements. MS can't keep up. If there were less people here that didn't have their mouths permanantly pressed into Bill Gates' crotch, a lot more progress would be made. lol scared? lol i'm not going to get into a flame war. but i'm certainly not scared, just want people to pay their way sometime. i don't want the xbox to go the way of the DC and that is what will happen if people sap all profit from developers. why would a developer bother to include live play thru a system that allows people to do it without buying the original game. bah

I bought an Xbox. I subscribed to Xbox Live to play my Xbox games online. I bought a DVD burner and media to make backups of my retail Xbox games to avoid having them damaged. And since I'm playing more and more online as opposed to single player, what's the use of backing up my retail games if I can't play them on Xbox Live? I've given M$ enough money to earn this right.

I'd rather M$ go to a system of cd keys for each game like many online PC titles have and get rid of this lame system of protection. Then, while you will need to buy the game in order to have a unique cd key, you can at least play using backups and your console won't have to be in the exact same state as everyone elses.

[Neeero]

If you guys aren't willing to pay for the Live Enabled game, why the hell would you pay real $$$ for a real copy of 007 (and why the hell did you pay for Xbox live in the first place when you could have used tunnelling alternatives)?  The whole idea has been floating around xboxhacker.net for a while now, so you guys are just slow to the punch if your finding this out now.  Luckly, the whole theoritical process is starting to look too tedious to be worth doing everytime you want to play a game on live.

[Crusader]

QUOTE (Neeero @ Jun 18 2003, 10:30 PM)

If you guys aren't willing to pay for the Live Enabled game, why the hell would you pay real $$$ for a real copy of 007 (and why the hell did you pay for Xbox live in the first place when you could have used tunnelling alternatives)?  The whole idea has been floating around xboxhacker.net for a while now, so you guys are just slow to the punch if your finding this out now.  Luckly, the whole theoritical process is starting to look too tedious to be worth doing everytime you want to play a game on live.

All solutions look tedious in the early stages. While the idea has been around for quite some time, only rather recently have people begun to think of how it can be practically applied.

[rgtaa]

[VaporStone]

QUOTE (broadd @ Jun 18 2003, 08:15 AM)

The other reason it won't work is because I gather the game XBE expects to find it's files on the D drive, and the xbox will reset if you attempt to eject the AUF disk to insert a back up disk.

If the xbe will look on the D: why cant you just pop open the dvd rom (i mean the actual casing) pull out 007 and replace it with a backup and the xbox wont even know u swappep disks thus it should run the backup ......

[shanafan]

QUOTE (VaporStone @ Jun 19 2003, 04:19 PM)

QUOTE (broadd @ Jun 18 2003, 08:15 AM) The other reason it won't work is because I gather the game XBE expects to find it's files on the D drive, and the xbox will reset if you attempt to eject the AUF disk to insert a back up disk. If the xbe will look on the D: why cant you just pop open the dvd rom (i mean the actual casing) pull out 007 and replace it with a backup and the xbox wont even know u swappep disks thus it should run the backup ......

Edit: Nevermind.

[Crusader]

Yah thanks, I don't know why more people aren't in support of cd keys for Xbox Live games. Serials can be a bit of a pain, but if you could use a modded Xbox, I think the pros outweigh the cons. It seems like some people like having M$ tell them what they can and can not do with the console that they purchased.

[fatbastard911]

 Hacking the xbox, your xbox, is the users discretion. But whether or not if it affects other users should it still be allowed?
       Personally I feel that talk about this topic doesn't matter for it will not stop that one single user who finds out that this method works. I read about people who condone and people who agree with hacking Xbox Live. Just a tip, if you do, then keep it to yourself..... For if anything is spread about a new hack, which is not as hard as it seems....then it will be prevented. For those who discretioned about whether the D drive will need to be read.... I believe Evox X had a D drive mount that tricks the system into thinking that the D Drive is being used while it is not.... This idea had came to my mind since the moment I heard of the 007 hack, so for those who complain about how long it "took" for all of us to find out about the hack, get a life. Nevertheless, as the old rule goes, "if it seems to good to be true, it probably is......"