Topic: If Gameshark Works Like Ar2 For Ps2, Live Possible (Read 270 times)

ppbest · « **on:** March 19, 2003, 01:18:00 AM »

Ok, first i need to know how the GameShark for Xbox works, i live in Europe,i got ActionReplay 2 for PS2, now i play PS2 backups without mod by using ONLY AR2. If GS or AR2 for Xbox works the same way as for PS2, it is very possible to play Xbox backups on Live. if anyone tryed GS or AR2 for xbox, please let me know weather the GS or AR2 CD stop turnning after you choose the cheat code and it tells you to change to the game CD.

I'm not sure weather SONY will detect a PS2 with mod ON online like MS, but i'm sure i can play PS2 backup online even they can detect the mod,because no mod installed in my PS2.

shanafan · « **Reply #1 on:** March 19, 2003, 10:55:00 AM »

ppbest · « **Reply #2 on:** March 20, 2003, 12:23:00 AM »

Your anwser is maybe too short, do you know how GameShark for Xbox works? if no,do not say "no".

shanafan · « **Reply #3 on:** March 20, 2003, 11:29:00 AM »

If you can play PS2 backups WITHOUT a modchip using PAR2, then are you peforming the swap trick which involved taking the PS2 apart? What PS2 modchip do you have?

ppbest · « **Reply #4 on:** March 20, 2003, 11:57:00 AM »

I NEVER bought a modchip for my PS2, just AR2 V1.9 PAL, with a small stick that i got from my gf,that's all, i have 72 PS2 backup games(9 CD, 63 DVD,some on PAL some on NTSC), there are only GT-Tokyo, GrandiaX,can not be read, all the others works fine,i think you should know this little tecnique for playing backup without modchip.

This post has been edited by ppbest: Mar 20 2003, 08:00 PM

feflicker · « **Reply #5 on:** March 20, 2003, 12:01:00 PM »

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i have 72 PS2 backup games

The operative word being "backup", right?

ppbest · « **Reply #6 on:** March 20, 2003, 12:25:00 PM »

I repeat my question,can we play backup games with PS2 mod ON online?

shanafan · « **Reply #7 on:** March 20, 2003, 12:34:00 PM »

QUOTE (ppbest @ Mar 20 2003, 04:25 PM)

I repeat my question,can we play backup games with PS2 mod ON online?

Yes.

But anyways, you can't just put in the PAR CD, then insert backup, and then the backup loads. At least not on NTSC machines. You have to do a swap trick which involves physically taking apart the PS2 and leaving it apart for playing backups.

This post has been edited by shanafan: Mar 20 2003, 08:35 PM

ppbest · « **Reply #8 on:** March 20, 2003, 12:41:00 PM »

That means Sony do not detect the mod when online? ok, if that, my idea is no usefull for PS2 online,but it REALLY should work with Xbox,just because MS can detect mod. If AR2 for Xbox work like for PS2,i mean it stop running before we take the AR2 CD out, we can surely play xbox backup game without mod,so no problem on LIVE.

hiredmuscle · « **Reply #9 on:** March 20, 2003, 01:01:00 PM »

A Xbox is not a PS2

leigao84 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 20, 2003, 01:14:00 PM »

QUOTE (ppbest @ Mar 20 2003, 09:41 PM)

That means Sony do not detect the mod when online? ok, if that, my idea is no usefull for PS2 online,but it REALLY should work with Xbox,just because MS can detect mod. If AR2 for Xbox work like for PS2,i mean it stop running before we take the AR2 CD out, we can surely play xbox backup game without mod,so no problem on LIVE.

The cache on the xbox record a checksum for the bios and if that's wrong it will get reported to M$ and you're banned. Now there seems to be new detection schems going on, we don't know yet. Now either you get that 2084 bit code and sign your own backups or you change that checksum and hope to god that's the only way M$ detect mods.

Why are people so greedy that they want to play *backups* online? I mean if you like the game so much pay the developers so that they can make new games!

ppbest · « **Reply #11 on:** March 20, 2003, 01:35:00 PM »

QUOTE (leigao84 @ Mar 20 2003, 10:14 PM)

QUOTE (ppbest @ Mar 20 2003, 09:41 PM)

That means Sony do not detect the mod when online? ok, if that, my idea is no usefull for PS2 online,but it REALLY should work with Xbox,just because MS can detect mod. If AR2 for Xbox work like for PS2,i mean it stop running before we take the AR2 CD out, we can surely play xbox backup game without mod,so no problem on LIVE.

The cache on the xbox record a checksum for the bios and if that's wrong it will get reported to M$ and you're banned. Now there seems to be new detection schems going on, we don't know yet. Now either you get that 2084 bit code and sign your own backups or you change that checksum and hope to god that's the only way M$ detect mods.

Why are people so greedy that they want to play *backups* online? I mean if you like the game so much pay the developers so that they can make new games!

Let me say something simple: now, we suppose that we can play a Xbox backup game without mod, do you think we can Live or not? i think yes. So the only problem is how to play a backup game on a xbox without any modification,especially no modchip installed. This problem i will not talk about with you,because it seems you reallly do not know how AR2 works without modchip installed,useless to talk, i'm waiting for Mars 26 when the AR2 for xbox is released, then i will buy one,and then everything is clear.

shanafan · « **Reply #12 on:** March 20, 2003, 01:55:00 PM »

QUOTE

Let me say something simple: now, we suppose that we can play a Xbox backup game without mod, do you think we can Live or not? i think yes. So the only problem is how to play a backup game on a xbox without any modification,especially no modchip installed. This problem i will not talk about with you,because it seems you reallly do not know how AR2 works without modchip installed,useless to talk, i'm waiting for Mars 26 when the AR2 for xbox is released, then i will buy one,and then everything is clear.

Yes, we do know what we are talking about. As hiredmuscle said so simply, a Xbox is not a PS2.

For example, to play a Dreamcast backup, run the DC Gameshark, and swap discs. Very easy method that doesn't involve a modchip. But, this same method can not be used with the PS2. You need to modchip to perform the swap trick with the PS2.

Remember how to play backups with the Playstation? You hold down the corner lid button and swap discs between a backup and an original.

Every system has a different method to be playing backups. One method on one system will not work with another system.

There *might* be a PAR method with the Xbox, but with what we know about the Xbox and its BIOS, I doubt it.

This post has been edited by shanafan: Mar 20 2003, 09:55 PM

ppbest · « **Reply #13 on:** March 20, 2003, 02:03:00 PM »

QUOTE (shanafan @ Mar 20 2003, 10:55 PM)

But, this same method can not be used with the PS2. You need to modchip to perform the swap trick with the PS2.

Maybe my english is too poor, if that, sorry :lol:

I think you didn't understand my situation, i'm Playing All my PS2 backup without any modchip installed,no need, i only use AR2 for PS2 to play backup.

I'll still try the AR2 for xbox,so pray for me,haha.

shanafan · « **Reply #14 on:** March 20, 2003, 02:08:00 PM »

When I was following PS2 modding, this method you claim works, I never heard of. Does it work for EA games too? Does it work for CDR and DVDR? Can you post a link?

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