Topic: Possible Ban-proof Switch (Read 357 times)

Time · « **on:** December 10, 2002, 11:52:00 AM »

SInce the mod bios isn't being loaded on the system at start up the mod shouldn't work at all doing it that way.

SiN686 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 10, 2002, 12:02:00 PM »

Exactly, the only time the mod bios will load is when the momentary switch is held until the system is finished booting. So there is no chance of just turning the system on with the mod enabled and forgeting it. You have to take the extra step to start the system with the mod bios.

alikaz · « **Reply #2 on:** December 10, 2002, 01:53:00 PM »

u knw i thnk this guy might have jus found the most fool proof way there is. so wut ur sayin is : make the switch (not ne form of on/off switch, but instead a switch that is only on when the thing is pressed (like a button on the controller) so if u wanna go into the back up mode then u jus hold down the butten until done startup, and then let go, and if u wanna play live then u jus leave it alone??? aight man this way u cant forget ur switch or ne thing and i dunt see ne major hardware problems or software ones with ne either. soo simple....thx im gonna go try finding a switch like this...ne one have ne idead about where i could find one....

edit: this one would be just perfect no? radioshack its got 3 pins and its a momentary switch...and 3.99 CANADIAN...awsome price too

SiN686 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 10, 2002, 01:57:00 PM »

That's exactly what I'm saying. I ended up using a reset switch out of an old pc case. Any momentary switch will work. Hope it works for you as well as it's working for me.

alikaz · « **Reply #4 on:** December 10, 2002, 05:39:00 PM »

hey can u gimme the wire things for the switch, i got 2 switches, how do i hook em up, the tut in the xbox-scene tut section isent that helpfull, like wtf is #E on my mother bord, i looked up all the home brew points and dident find ne thing

feflicker · « **Reply #5 on:** December 10, 2002, 07:57:00 PM »

Radioshack sells tons of these momentary switches. A great idea...

opjose · « **Reply #6 on:** December 10, 2002, 09:21:00 PM »

One problem.

Roomate "Bill" puts in a Splinter Cell backup after the Xbox is left at the Evolution-X screen.

He goes online.

Now you are banned.

alikaz · « **Reply #7 on:** December 11, 2002, 10:06:00 AM »

well do wut i do, DLELEATE ALL THE UPDATEDASH.XBE off the games...that way U CANT NOT update...foolproof HAHA..

alikaz · « **Reply #8 on:** December 11, 2002, 10:08:00 AM »

mark986, u can not play backups online still, we are jus tryin to get online and jus play orignals.. and plus if u have these"backups" that means u have the orignals rite? so u can use them.

lolz playin. and btw i ment to say "DELETE" not "DLELEATE" lolz aight

alikaz · « **Reply #9 on:** December 11, 2002, 10:09:00 AM »

and plus dose ne one knw a quick and easy way i can update my bios? but i cant use my mobo cuz the bios is inegraded, and im too cheap to buy a eprom programmer

SiN686 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 11, 2002, 12:03:00 PM »

All this method does is try to eliminate the possibility of leaving your mod turned on and forgeting about it. All I was trying to do was find the most foolproof way of enabling the mod.

Captain_Dunsel · « **Reply #11 on:** December 11, 2002, 12:48:00 PM »

alikaz, as author of the adding switches tutorial that you think "isn't that helpful", I'd like to thank you for your... um, feedback.

Throughout that tutorial, I assume that the reader has the necessary docs to install the chip they have, so I do not include installation diagrams or instructions for each chip. Further, while I have not installed a homebrew mod myself, I also assumed that the use of the E# signal name to refer to the corresponding connection point on the motherboard was pretty commonplace, as on Bunnie's diagram here or Dysfunction's diagram here.

If you disagree, and believe that chip installation diagrams should be included in the tutorial, please say so and I will consider adding them to the next revision.

Thanks!

Captain Dunsel

xdrei · « **Reply #12 on:** December 11, 2002, 01:35:00 PM »

lol. People have told me i need capacitors and resistors, others just tell me two points i need to break the connection. I haven't done the capacitor and resistor things cause i have no clue what to do, but i have cut the wires that are supposed to be cut and it dont help, it gives me red/green flashing. anyway, ya diagrams would be SUPERsweet

xdrei · « **Reply #13 on:** December 11, 2002, 01:55:00 PM »

there's no point in having an eeprom switch!!... Ok so u go on live with modchip enabled and ur eeprom is screwed, great u have one to back it up... But how is that different than going online with ur original eeprom screwing that up, and then getting a new one? I can understand the modchip & HD connection though. but IMO the eeprom is pointless. I might be majorly wrong though, anybody?

Sayten · « **Reply #14 on:** December 11, 2002, 02:30:00 PM »

One thing to keep in mind here is that when the xbox does a quick reboot, it reinitializes the data segment out of the uncompressed copy in the bios. If there are any differences in the data segments between the two bioses, then you have the potential to run into problems. During a quick reboot, it zeros all but 4KB of the system heap and the kernel bss segment. It then overwrites the data segment with the uncompressed copy in the bios. This effectively resets the kernel back to the way it was after the initial load. The biggest change with bios swapping like this is if you have different kernel versions in the system flash and in the modchip. There are quite a few differences in the data segment between the 3944 and 4034 bioses.

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