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[Katonta]

K, let says I follow the new infamous tutorial and I take a new non-banned eeprom from a new xbox and everything pans out great.  What happens if I try to use both xbox's on XBL?  I mean will it detect 2 of the same S/N's or MAC's?   This ? may be too soon to ask so Ill be patient with getting my answer or I may have missed some info.  But if anyone knows then fill me in..thanks gobble gobble

[Oger]

I bet they would stop 2 of the same key online.. but hey you never know

[Pumalicious]

something would go wrong if the other xbox would try to connect, even if there not checking this. Its like having identical mac address on a LAN, Im sure there would be some communication problems.

[Pumalicious]

I would like to know if we could use random information in the serial and online key and if that would make a difference?

[opjose]

Heh, it's more likely a user will screw up, causing not one but two Xboxes to be banned!

BTW: For all who care, the hack to patch the old M-icrosoft dashboard to use F:\ for all of it's files works rather well.

This is a good way to deal with Evolution-X's drop to M-icrosoft Dashboard.

What is this all about?

Mod chip on = you can only drop to the OLD (non-xboxlive protection) dashboard

Mod chip off = you can only drop to the new (xblive anti-mod) dashboard.

Now all we need is a hack to prohibit XBLive games from running with the mod chip switched on. Though you could keep them off the drive, and hidden away to avoid siblings/relatives/significant other troubles.

What's the hack?

Assuming you are using an F_Boot rom image...

Use WinHex on the OLD xboxdash.xbe file and replace all the TEXT occurances of partition2 with partition6

Copy your old C:\ partition to F:\ along with Evolution-X

Now point Evolution-X's evox.ini file to only use the M-icrosoft dashboard on F:\

The XboxLive update will now only update the C:\ partition.

Close, oh so close to a "safe" mod chip system for XBLive use.

[Katonta]

If I am not mistaking the F-boot bins are only for 1mb bios and not 256k?

[Katonta]

undead, your theory on this?

[opjose]

QUOTE (Katonta @ Nov 25 2002, 04:01 AM)

If I am not mistaking the F-boot bins are only for 1mb bios and not 256k?

                                    Nope F_Boot works with the Matrix chips as well.

[Katonta]

QUOTE (opjose @ Nov 25 2002, 12:20 PM)

QUOTE (Katonta @ Nov 25 2002, 04:01 AM) If I am not mistaking the F-boot bins are only for 1mb bios and not 256k? Nope F_Boot works with the Matrix chips as well.

                                    Is there 256k F-boot bins or do I have to flash my TSOP in order to use the 1mb bins.

[Katonta]

QUOTE (Katonta @ Nov 25 2002, 12:48 PM)

QUOTE (opjose @ Nov 25 2002, 12:20 PM) QUOTE (Katonta @ Nov 25 2002, 04:01 AM) If I am not mistaking the F-boot bins are only for 1mb bios and not 256k? Nope F_Boot works with the Matrix chips as well. Is there 256k F-boot bins or do I have to flash my TSOP in order to use the 1mb bins.

I made 256 bins out of 1mb versions using hondaXbox's tutorial, will this be ok?  What are the benefits of E/F boot?  I realize you can drop safely to the old MS dash, but would you need to (in terms of having mod chip enabled)?  Unless its just for DVD dongle and music playback, then that would make sense.  The only reason I ever drop to any MS dash is mod-diabled to XBL dash.  How will this benefit me over the conventional method if I dont play music or use the DVD dongle?

[Fuzzy]

am i mistaken or would it be possible to detect an update.xbe file and auto disable the chip? it would take some work but it seems feasible. Comments?

[RickH]

QUOTE (Pumalicious @ Nov 24 2002, 09:58 PM)

something would go wrong if the other xbox would try to connect, even if there not checking this. Its like having identical mac address on a LAN, Im sure there would be some communication problems.

                                    I am betting that you could get away with having two machines with the same eeprom data but probably not logged in at the same time. You have to remember, XBL is not just one computer logging serials and HD keys. It would be crazy and very slow for MS to make a master server handle all of that traffic. I am guessing the majority of the mod chip detection is being done by the client software and a report sent to MS via a clustered system of servers that respond to these problems. In fact I bet you the delay in blacklisting a serial number through all the servers could actually be hours or even a whole day.

[Katonta]

QUOTE (RickH @ Nov 25 2002, 08:28 PM)

I am betting that you could get away with having two machines with the same eeprom data but probably not logged in at the same time.

                                    I agree, but how will that solve this dilema then?  If you have a good eeprom from a good xbox and if that xbox cannot be online at the same time as the newly re-surrected one then whats the sense in using the banned one for XBL and not just the good one?

[Oger]

walmart+matrix+hairdryer=eeprom LOL

[Katonta]

QUOTE (Oger @ Nov 26 2002, 12:20 AM)

walmart+matrix+hairdryer=eeprom LOL

this will only lead to other peops (who knows maybe yourself with that nice new walmart+matrix+hairdryer) with NO access to XBL.  Definately not how this is going to be won.  Anonymous access/maybe generated (serial, mac, etc) are gonna be a must for this whole process to work for EVERYONE.