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[majik655]

Can someone explain about flashing the eeprom ?

Such as.. is it able to be done through xbox ?
I read the instructions just didn't undertsand what to do with eeprom.bin

What part of the proceedure is flashing the eeprom ?

Sorry if these are just dumb ass newbie questions..
Not saying I am going to do this (obviously lol) but just would like to understand the details of how it works.

Thanks

[The Legendary Rob]

ok how bout his?  i go rent an xbox from video store.  swap motherboards with mine... keeping my hard drive.  should i be able to still run xbox and connect this way?

[Spree]

Something that needs to be highlighted is that this is only a short term fix.  This shouldn't be used as a final fix.

[opjose]

QUOTE (The Legendary Rob @ Nov 18 2002, 09:22 AM)

i dunno much bout all this EPROM n stuff, but everything sounds good.  my question is?  would replacing/upgrading ur hardrive to a new one fix the problem then?

                                    No.

I've swapped drives around and the problem is motherboard/eeprom centric.

This is why the identity swap does work BTW.

Zander has started an interesting thread about the whole authentication issue and the myriad of holes it has.

A very good read.

[opjose]

QUOTE (Demi @ Nov 18 2002, 09:42 AM)

Changing the hard drive doesn't make a difference. I tried that thinking that MS had put some file in the drive to keep you from logging in if you had a mod chip installed. To the best of my knowlegde this problem originates on the server side. I only say this because i was able to connect the night xbox live was released but through all of saturday and most of sunday i was unable to connect. I kept getting Xbox Live not found. So i changed the eeprom and only the eeprom aside from removing my mod chip, which was disabled when i was getting the error, and was able to connect just fine. I know most people are still hanging on to this " it's a server problem" but after switching the eeprom and getting on line i switched back to my original eeprom and got Xbox live not found again. So i find it hard to believe it is a server problem. I don't want to believe that they are banning xboxes but that seems to be the only explanation if this method solves the problem.

                                    Yeap I may indeed have to backtrack on this.

Because of the kerberos authentication problem it did initially appear a server side issue.

Now it seems that more is afoot.

I've speculated that the "update" drops a change to some part of the dash that activates or changes mod chip detection.

But here is how M-icrosoft get VERY sneaky!

They knew we would simply turn off the mod chips if this was the case... in spite of their outright LIES that they wanted only to eliminate mod chips to prevent cheating. (Yeah right billy boy!).

So they dropped some code or activation flag on our Xbox. (The Update you get told is required for the games... and it IS required to get the new IP's for connection!)

All is hunky dory during your initial sessions and connections (which is what fooled me) AS LONG AS YOU KEEP THE MOD CHIP SWITCHED OFF.

Ok, now the good stuff.... you turn on the mod chip. Fine still no problem UNTIL you dump to the MS dash.

The update dash wakes up, checks for a mod chip sets a flag in eeprom or a file and goes on merrily working with the user none the wiser...

The user decides, time to play XBLive again, switches the mod off again...

NOW during the start of the next VALID XboxLive session, the Xbox reports back in that, "Hey SERIAL XXXXXXX is modded".

You get one more initial session, and blam your XBLive days are toast.

VERY sneaky as M-icrosoft KNEW that we would drop to our dashboards sooner or later.

What does this mean?

That POTENTIALLY you could safely connect to Xbox Live if you NEVER dropped to the M-icrosoft Dash with the mod chip turned on.

Ouch! No DVD's via the MS Dash, no ripped music, no setting the audio, video, etc.... nice solution on their part to force a detection.

Ultimately if the system is not defeatable, they've lost me. I have no desire to keep an unmodded Xbox around for those FEW times I decide to play XBLive.

No thanks I'll keep my money next year... billy boy.

[opjose]

QUOTE (The Legendary Rob @ Nov 18 2002, 12:22 PM)

QUOTE (Demi @ Nov 18 2002, 01:42 AM) Changing the hard drive doesn't make a difference. I tried that thinking that MS had put some file in the drive to keep you from logging in if you had a mod chip installed. To the best of my knowlegde this problem originates on the server side. I only say this because i was able to connect the night xbox live was released but through all of saturday and most of sunday i was unable to connect. I kept getting Xbox Live not found. So i changed the eeprom and only the eeprom aside from removing my mod chip, which was disabled when i was getting the error, and was able to connect just fine. I know most people are still hanging on to this " it's a server problem" but after switching the eeprom and getting on line i switched back to my original eeprom and got Xbox live not found again. So i find it hard to believe it is a server problem. I don't want to believe that they are banning xboxes but that seems to be the only explanation if this method solves the problem. i don't get it then?  by gettin another virgin xbox hard drive's eprom aren't u actually getting its information so u can connect to xbox live?  at least thats what it sounds like to me.  if this is the case then why wouldn't replacing ur hard drive with another xbox's hard drive solve the problem... since instead of moving eprom of hard drive to ur hard drive, ur simply replacing the entire hard drive therefor getting it's information (eprom) that way?  please explain

                                    The EEPROM is the "identity" of your Xbox.

Remember that the unlock code sent to the Xbox's hard drive is tied to multiple things.

Simply replacing the drive, or swapping the eeprom codes IS NOT enough to get a working system again, let alone XBLive.

You MUST

1 - Unlock your old drive (out to a PC it goes)
2 - Put back in Xbox with mod.
3 - Flash the EEPROM for new ID
4 - Generate NEW unlock key
5 - Lock the HD with the new key (again out to a PC it goes!)
6 - Put back in afflicted Xbox
7 - Revert to OEM BIOS and Dashboard
8 - Then you can go live.

[opjose]

QUOTE (PillMonster @ Nov 18 2002, 12:53 PM)

Don't go messing with your EEPROMS just yet, sit back and wait a few days. I've already started seeing messages like "I wiped my EEPROM, and now my box doesn't work". I'm sure you can do without live for a week (I know its difficult ) and wait to see what people discover. You may be risking getting your ACCOUNT banned by playing with the serial numbers - noone knows at the moment - just sit back and wait a few days.

                                    I posted the instructions for this at one users behest.

Unforunately several people have picked up on this if it were a tutorial.

That was NEVER the intent. As a result quite a few people are doing it incorrectly and you can indeed end up with a relatively "dead" Xbox.

As to what is going on EXACTLY, we are close, oooh so VERY close.

[opjose]

QUOTE (holle @ Nov 18 2002, 01:15 PM)

hi has anybody tried an other xbl account on his "banned" xbox? I want to know wether the ban is only for the console or in realation with the account thx holle

                                    It's the box, not the account that is not permitted to authenticate.

[opjose]

QUOTE (Skunky @ Nov 18 2002, 09:07 PM)

Can you swap 4034 Bios (new box) to a 3944 bios (old non working live box) with this eeprom solution?  JUst wondering.

                                    No.

[opjose]

QUOTE (Satan00 @ Nov 18 2002, 10:21 PM)

EEPRom doesnt make a diffrence what your kernal is, thats your bios

                                    The punctuation was missing on this statement so it can be misread.

( It's the ) EEPRom. It doesnt make a diffrence what your kernal is, thats your bios

[opjose]

QUOTE (The Legendary Rob @ Nov 19 2002, 05:31 AM)

ok how bout his?  i go rent an xbox from video store.  swap motherboards with mine... keeping my hard drive.  should i be able to still run xbox and connect this way?

                                    Yes it will WORK, but MS did something VERY sneaky to defeat the "switch off modchip" solution.

Read Zander's thread where I posted an explanation on how it works.

It's a bit of a slight of hand, not anything that can actually detect that the mod chip is turned off.

The bottom line, if you EVER for ANY reason drop to the "updated" Xbox Dashboard with the mod chip ON you are SOL.

There -IS- a workaround though.

Mod chip On (using a Ybox type bios) and always drop to Evolution-X. The MSDASHBOARD entry MUST be disabled and be set up so that it is impossible to accidentally drop to it.

Mod chip off, always drop to the MS Dashboard.

There is no detection of extra files on the drive, a different locked drive, or the presense of F:\ by the way!

[opjose]

QUOTE (Spree @ Nov 19 2002, 05:51 AM)

Something that needs to be highlighted is that this is only a short term fix.  This shouldn't be used as a final fix. opjose Archived User Hero Member Posts: 2553 Resolution For Xbox Live Not Found QUOTE (Spree @ Nov 19 2002, 05:51 AM) Something that needs to be highlighted is that this is only a short term fix.  This shouldn't be used as a final fix. Spree Archived User Newbie Posts: 41 Resolution For Xbox Live Not Found Thanks for checking on that but I would still assert that there must be something altered in the eeprom.  I understand that the older eeprom isn't working but I think maybe this is something that will have to be done manually by comparison.  Unfortunately though it could also mean that it is in the prom which is usually write once only meaning that they could have blown some fuses to deactivate live although this seems largely unlikely. Also curious to me would be how many non beta people are afflicted by this.   The reason I ask is bc the other xbox that I have here is one that I was modding and since I didn't pick up on this till mine was already having the problem this other box never had been on live until after the mod detection was in place.  Meaning basically that if you are just now going to live you maybe can't get on in the first place to force the change in the eeprom and disconnecting the chip will save your connectivity. If this is true then MS screwed the betas cause if you log on now and realize the mod is holding you back it gives you a chance at amnesty.  Whereas with the beta since you didn't know until it was too late your screwed.  Although I think that alot of nonbeta users are also in this pot which would defeat this theory all together. Spree Archived User Newbie Posts: 41 Resolution For Xbox Live Not Found Also keep in mind that you would probably have to backup your c drive to the same point and the saved eeprom would likely have to be one that was save PRIOR to anything to do with live. Print Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 « previous next » xboxscene.org forums > OG Xbox Forums > Xbox Online Gaming (Xbox Live, Xlink, and others) > Xbox Live - Online Gaming Service > Resolution For Xbox Live Not Found   SMF 2.0.19 | SMF © 2021, Simple Machines

[opjose]

QUOTE (Spree @ Nov 19 2002, 05:51 AM)

Something that needs to be highlighted is that this is only a short term fix.  This shouldn't be used as a final fix. Spree Archived User Newbie Posts: 41 Resolution For Xbox Live Not Found Thanks for checking on that but I would still assert that there must be something altered in the eeprom.  I understand that the older eeprom isn't working but I think maybe this is something that will have to be done manually by comparison.  Unfortunately though it could also mean that it is in the prom which is usually write once only meaning that they could have blown some fuses to deactivate live although this seems largely unlikely. Also curious to me would be how many non beta people are afflicted by this.   The reason I ask is bc the other xbox that I have here is one that I was modding and since I didn't pick up on this till mine was already having the problem this other box never had been on live until after the mod detection was in place.  Meaning basically that if you are just now going to live you maybe can't get on in the first place to force the change in the eeprom and disconnecting the chip will save your connectivity. If this is true then MS screwed the betas cause if you log on now and realize the mod is holding you back it gives you a chance at amnesty.  Whereas with the beta since you didn't know until it was too late your screwed.  Although I think that alot of nonbeta users are also in this pot which would defeat this theory all together. Spree Archived User Newbie Posts: 41 Resolution For Xbox Live Not Found Also keep in mind that you would probably have to backup your c drive to the same point and the saved eeprom would likely have to be one that was save PRIOR to anything to do with live. Print Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 « previous next » xboxscene.org forums > OG Xbox Forums > Xbox Online Gaming (Xbox Live, Xlink, and others) > Xbox Live - Online Gaming Service > Resolution For Xbox Live Not Found   SMF 2.0.19 | SMF © 2021, Simple Machines

[Spree]

Thanks for checking on that but I would still assert that there must be something altered in the eeprom.  I understand that the older eeprom isn't working but I think maybe this is something that will have to be done manually by comparison.  Unfortunately though it could also mean that it is in the prom which is usually write once only meaning that they could have blown some fuses to deactivate live although this seems largely unlikely.

Also curious to me would be how many non beta people are afflicted by this.   The reason I ask is bc the other xbox that I have here is one that I was modding and since I didn't pick up on this till mine was already having the problem this other box never had been on live until after the mod detection was in place.  Meaning basically that if you are just now going to live you maybe can't get on in the first place to force the change in the eeprom and disconnecting the chip will save your connectivity.

If this is true then MS screwed the betas cause if you log on now and realize the mod is holding you back it gives you a chance at amnesty.  Whereas with the beta since you didn't know until it was too late your screwed.  Although I think that alot of nonbeta users are also in this pot which would defeat this theory all together.

[Spree]

Also keep in mind that you would probably have to backup your c drive to the same point and the saved eeprom would likely have to be one that was save PRIOR to anything to do with live.