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[pike-old]

Nonsense, nonsense, nonsense.

If MS had booted folk to slow down overloaded server access they would be telling us. They wouldn't let some pleb spend three hours going through tech support flow charts trying to help us, if they knew they were the deliberate casue of their deliberate problem.

They'd either be honest or simply say we are having temporary access issues in your area....

[Michael14100]

[Zander]

It's about time for an english lesson.

Z

[XBOB LIVE]

i hope your right opjose

[opjose]

QUOTE (Michael14100 @ Nov 15 2002, 12:18 PM)

it is a mod chip detection ok MS Tech Support Told Me End Of Story He Said This Which Is A Slight Give Away: If I Have Modified It To Play 'Other Games' It Wont Work. OK Its About You Admit Defeat,

                                    No, if you knew even a little about Kerberos authentication you would know that this is NOT the problem.

Kerberos is not denying the Xbox's authentication, it's producing an error instead.

[Zander]

Agreed opjose. This doesn't look like a denial to me either, more of a failure during the handshake.

Z

[XBOB LIVE]

the serial number on your live connection screen is your serial number.... flip your xbox over its the same..

[Zander]

pike,

Having spoken to the xbox live support guys 5 times now, I will NOT believe anything they say. I'm still waiting for call backs that should have occured 12 hours ago.

how about this???

How OLD is the xbox in question that is failing?

Mine was created on 11-30-2001
Made in Mexico.

Possible thread?

[opjose]

QUOTE (pike @ Nov 15 2002, 12:32 PM)

op - - Listen to the lad who was TOLD by MS this was mod protection. He binned his machine and got a virgin one. The Virgin one CAN'T AND DOESN'T FAIL TO WORK 1. MS told him they had stuffed him, and the proof of the pudding was his modded machine wouldn't work, but when it was replaced with a Virgin, that keeps working...

                                    GAWD you'll believe ANYTHING.

Yet you simply are not reading or believing what I've posted.

MODDED XBOXES -WORK-!

Get it, they DO work!

Even better they work with games run from the hard drive.

IT -WORKS!-

End of story.

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There are problems with a RANDOM sampling of Xboxes that seems to be totally UNRELATED  to the mod chip.

PERIOD!

The problem revolves soley around the serialization of the machine. Nothing more.

The Kerberos servers are rejecting authentication attempts from machines with relatively RANDOM serial numbers.

Even the BETA forums still has people complaining about non working XBLive with virgin units as I write this.

The people being told B.S. from MS are spreading M.S.'s FUD which is their stated POLICY (remember the Halloween paper?) This is how they work.

[opjose]

QUOTE (Zander @ Nov 15 2002, 12:32 PM)

Agreed opjose. This doesn't look like a denial to me either, more of a failure during the handshake. Z

                                    EXACTLY!

[PillMonster]

Opjose.
Yes your modded boxes will work for a brief period of time. Mine do, then one or two days later they don't. Box after box. Only one has been able to connect always - the unmodded box.
Yes, Kerberos authentication is involved - the server fails to return a response if your box is on a blacklist. I think MS delay the blacklisting for a day, to get more information i.e. different chip signatures, possibility of on/off switch.
Opjose - wait and see and tell me if im wrong. I'm going to stick with box 4 (unmodded), and will let you know how good the online games are while you are playing alone in your room.

[darkhalf]

QUOTE (pike @ Nov 15 2002, 01:21 PM)

Yup. Just dug out my MAME only dedicated X Box FROM MY ARCADE MACHINE. pLUGGED IT IN. instantly, instead of cannot connect to network, BOSH! i'M IN AND ABLE TO TRANSFER THE ACCOUNT ACROSS. Signed up, I go to the game. It says an update is required before I can continue. It lets me play online, then when I reset the machine, bonjour, dead as a dodo Needless to say my MAME MACHINE is modchipped AND AS SOON AS MS CLOCKED THIS, THEY ZAPPED ME. Fair play to them, they get another 160 notes off me. Nice work

                                    Pike how did you transfer the account across?  You saved it to your memory card?  I have a second xbox get connected to live but I cannot perform account summary to get my valid working account  

It might just be freakin easier getting another kit.

[FSHoCKZ]

people, don't buy new xbox's it's only fuelling M$ greedy nature. just think how much money it's gonna cost them NOT to have people with modded xbox's subscribing to xblive!

well, u gotta do what u gotta. but think about it! they lose money! they remove the ban (if it exists???!!!???)

[pike-old]

dARK HALF


EASY - SWITCH ON X BOX WITH NO DISK IN GOTO MEMORY, LOOK IN THE HARD DRIVE FOR YOUR X BOX LIVE ACCOUNT, THEN COPY IT TO THE MEMORY CARD (HIGHLIGHT X BOX LIVE ACCOUNT, THEN PRESS RIGHT ON DPAD, TO GET COPY/DELETE OPTIONS

Once copied onto memeory card, swap machines, then goto memory again, select memory card, select x box live save details and copy them across to the working machines hard drive!

[NIGHTBREED]

 doesn't die out because WE need you.

2nd I'm tired of hearing "well 2 days ago this..."  "last week that..."
The 15th is today!!!
We need people that have never connected to LIVE that have a MOD that are using brand NEW FACTORY SEALED XBOX LIVE RETAIL KITS purchased TODAY, try to connect.

My store opens @ 10am and i have asked my boss if i can take my 2 breaks to go and get it.

My wife is working tonight SO, play time for the boys.

I have a MATRIX, it would be good if somebody that try it in MOD "3" "EJECT TRICK" and see if it works.
There has to be a way to connect OK the first time.
From what i have been reading if you screw up the 1st time then M$ may be able to block a serial # from you XBOX motherboard...

I vote for OPJOSE to be PRESIDENT