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[PLUTO 3.14]

  So....  there is a debate over wether M$ has a blacklist of XBox's......  

I am planning on going to get me a XBox Live Kit today if they still have some..... but i am not sure i want to.....  I run a PC-Bioxx with Evox 2.5 Evox on it...  All my games are full backups running from my HD...  So dose anybody got any idea if it will be worth it to get the XLive Kit with my setup....  There doesn't seem to be much of a pattern of XBox's that can't connect...  Both modded and un-modded XBox's seem to have probs...

Keeps us uptodate OpJose....  Maybe there is a pattern or another explanation for the handshake being slap away....  I guess I can just return the Kit if I can't connect to XLive with in 30 days....  Unless they won't let u...  They might have the same policy as they do for games.... No Returns...  

[darkhalf]

 I have moved my account successfully.

As expected it works.

Old XBOX bought day 1 Nov 15th, 2001
Virgin System out of the box (was saving the baby)
Transferred my account over
LIVE worked
Got into a LIVE game of MotoGP

Interesting thing though.  When I first popped the Retail disc into my CLEAN xbox it updated with LIVE (which I thought was the RETAIL version) and it wasnt.   When I went online and tried to logon to MotoGP it failed and said I need an UPDATE.   A second faster update was added and I was able to get online.

Well Im good to go  If we get the mods working I will have two xboxes I can play online.

[Duece]

SO since you can connect now opjose, does it work from the dashboard?  Do you still get that funky XBL NOT FOUND error in the dashboard?

[aGeMo]

I read this over on the xbox live beta forum:

i just spoke with tech support and got a good idea of what's going on.
if your box was sent in for repairs or is a refurb, it probably will not work. because the xbox is looking for modded consoles, if all the s/n's on the parts inside do not match up, it will not work.

[Questioner]

So you can't have your xbox repaired and expect Xbox Live to work? What kind of crap is that.

[NIGHTBREED]

When you say you have yboxdash, is it a copy of the original dash or the one from EVOX?

When you say "you can connect fine and setup the account with it disabled..." you are talking matrix disable?
Do you do this with mod #3 eject trick?

My XBOX is open and ready for testing it would be fun to have the BRAINS of XBOX-SCENE had out homework ie. different detailed ways to setup up and run XBL for different people.

i could test a solution and somebody else could try another an so forth...
If everybody tries everything at the same time steps are lost and errors happens which in turn may hinder and hide the real problem/solution...

So teachers...give us some homework...and remember it should be given out to the people that have not yet installed XBL and either a MODDed or NON-MODDed XBOX.

[XBOB LIVE]

so someone do it the easy way.... buy a new xbox and connect.  if it works cool.  then put in a modchip and try to connect... then we will know.

[NIGHTBREED]

Don't forget that the people that actually work on the phone when you call into M$ are not that all technical...meaning that if you call in and talk to a tech they will give you an answer and that if you call back and talk to another tech he will give you a different answer...

It is just a callcenter with people making minimum wage...

[Deacon brown]

[NIGHTBREED]

AND THEY ALSO SAID THAT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE LIVE IF YOU HAVE A TV THAT IS SMALLER THAN 30inches...

for sure they will tell you that, what do you actually expect them to say, they will even go as far as to ask you to send in the unit...

We have to wait for the MAN===>OPJOSE

[hanns]

QUOTE (aGeMo @ Nov 15 2002, 02:27 PM)

I read this over on the xbox live beta forum: i just spoke with tech support and got a good idea of what's going on. if your box was sent in for repairs or is a refurb, it probably will not work. because the xbox is looking for modded consoles, if all the s/n's on the parts inside do not match up, it will not work.

i doubt this is the reason because i have two refurbished xboxs which connect without any problems when my mod is disabled. in addition, if the serial numbers on the parts don't match up, your xbox won't even boot up without a mod.

[PCreaper]

Just so ya know those boxes will not be working soon.   Just got off the phone from MS and they told me YES they have banned my box and it will not be allowed back on until I send it in for repair.

People don't take part in any testing you will be banned a few days later.  Trust me.

[brywalker]

opjose:

Thank you for all your hard work. We really appreciate it. You have been excellent and correct on an uncountable occasions.

However, this time you are wrong.

There is some sort of mod protection, and it's outcome is somewhat random. It will blacklist some machines and it will let some get into the login of the game, but then it will not connect completely.

And others it just won't catch.

We had a virgin xbox that worked 100% an hour ago.

We put an enigmah in. Now it won't log on through games. IT will still connect through the dashboard.

We diabled the chip. We can get in fine again.

All systems that we have that were blacklisted 2 days ago, ARE STILL BLACKLISTED!

So go ahead and tell me that its not mod detection. The systems that are blacklisted have been working fine on like since early October. And now XBox Live is not found.

[NIGHTBREED]

when you say "disable the chip" do you mean you do the eject trick or is the chip physicaly removed?

[brywalker]

We put a DPDT switch on 15 and 21. To the XBox, it's not even there.