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mde3233967

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« on: November 02, 2002, 01:04:00 AM »

hi,i had the same problem i called them they told me that my router dmz settings had to be my xbox ip address.will i put my ip address of the xbox in there and it work connect right up thats if you have a router to
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opjose

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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2002, 09:35:00 AM »

99.999999% of these problems are related to your local connection not the Xbox.

This isn't the Xbox's fault.

Your ISP may also be using Cisco or some other routers which block the ports that the Xbox uses too.

Fortunately these are in the minority and for most people it -IS- plug and go.

The ISP's will also be learning too. After the initial rollout they will quickly come up to speed.

Except for a FEW DLINK routers, XBLive is painless with most DSL/Cable modem sharing devices.

Merely plug and go.
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opjose

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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2002, 09:36:00 AM »

And yes the thread topic is an UNFOUNDED RUMOR, not based on any fact, just idle speculation by people who know nothing or little about networking.
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2002, 11:10:00 AM »

I'm having the same problem as you.  Tried it on 3 different hookups and still won't work.  You can read my other post in this forum for more details.  Pretty annoying.  Lets just hope this is an issue on MS's side (or at least something they can fix before launch).  sad.gif
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2002, 02:12:00 PM »

I hear u guy, but the thing is I just want get on I don't even want to play NFL fever they gave me. I gotta rent NBA and NFL 2k3(wink wink) when I get live to work.
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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2002, 09:07:00 PM »

i dont know if this will help u but i have 2 nics in my pc  no hub just cable modem in 1 and xbox in other set live to auto ip and its on also i fount on xbox connect i got less lag with that setup than if i used a hub becaue with a hub  the data gos in circles plus 2 nics cost less than a hub



also can i hook 2 or 3 xboxs to a 1024/512 cable modem with no lag?
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LumbraX

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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2002, 09:24:00 PM »

HAH!  Common Guys,  their are 30 Million Xbox Live Beta Testers out their.
If Xbox Live didnt work for some Xbox's MS would have said something by now.   It probly lacks support for your guys ISP or something like that.   rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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LumbraX

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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2002, 09:27:00 PM »

If your ISP is one of these then you shouldnt have a problem with Xbox Live.




Bell Canada
BellSouth Corp.
Charter Communications Inc.
Comcast Corp.
Cox Communications Inc.
EarthLink Inc.
MSN®
Qwest Communications
Rogers Cable Inc.
SBC Communications Inc.
TELUS Corp.
Time Warner Cable's Road Runner
Verizon Communications






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Jalan

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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2002, 01:23:00 AM »

Have a Cisco 675 and xbconnect works fine but xbox live freezes right up...anyone know any settings you might have to change with the cisco?  I havent been able to get any help really from ms, or beta board...
also using msn/qwest dsl
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2002, 03:01:00 AM »

works fine with AT&T cable service from what many have reported [ must be a local issue or something wrong in the box ] .
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opjose

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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2002, 11:23:00 AM »

QUOTE (badmonkey @ Nov 3 2002, 05:20 AM)
Actually opjose it is a problem with the Xbox. I don't know what in the world it could be, but it is definately a problem with the xbox.

                                    This is HIGHLY unlikely.

While you may have been blessed with a defective NIC chip in your Xbox, this has little or nothing to do with the posts on the Live forums.

99.99999% of those are configuration issues exacerbated by users who unfortunately know nothing about this stuff. So they post RUMORS...

E.G. My nic is broken.

Then others pick it up ala chicken little.

It's far more likely that the port on your machine has two of the pins in the wrong "slot" (which is easy to do) than it is that you have a defective NIC chip.

This would cause the problems you have seen, and could be fixed with a safety pin.

There are also tons of other reasons.


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opjose

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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2002, 11:24:00 AM »

QUOTE (Jalan @ Nov 3 2002, 08:23 AM)
Have a Cisco 675 and xbconnect works fine but xbox live freezes right up...anyone know any settings you might have to change with the cisco?  I havent been able to get any help really from ms, or beta board...
also using msn/qwest dsl

                                    According to the MS site the Cisco routers require a firmware update.
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opjose

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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2002, 01:39:00 PM »

QUOTE (badmonkey @ Nov 3 2002, 08:15 PM)
Opjose:

The Xbox, that does not work with Live, has no other network problems at all. I have no problems on XBConnect, local System Link Play, or connecting to it through FTP when running Evox. It just does not work with Live.

Now I can appreciate the help you offer to the many in these forums, but for the love of all please read the entire msg before responding.

I know how to setup my internet just fine. One Xbox works with Live, while the other does not.

Yes, that means I have 2 Xboxes, and that means I have tried them both on multiple internet connections.

Do I know what the problem is exactly? No, I do not, but I do know, that whatever the problem, it lies in the Xbox not my connection or ability to set it up.

                                    Again this is simply -NOT- related to the Xbox itself.

There is nothing within the Xbox that would permit the NIC to work (which it does obviously) but not permit XBLive to work.

All XBLive is, is a simple FILE on your hard drive that contains the connection information.

Your Xbox merely loads this file when you start an XboxLive enabled game or the dashboard and uses the settings contained within this file.

That's it.

It's up to the programs to work with live or not.

This is why Evolution-X works so well, as the dashboard is not dependant upon anything other than the NIC being present to configure and utilize it.

This is alwy why you can simply transfer the account settings from one Xbox to another. The Xboxlive account info merely gets xferred.

The XBLive "internet" settings are stored on each machine's drive in an XIP file.

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opjose

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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2002, 05:42:00 AM »

QUOTE (sinister @ Nov 4 2002, 10:30 AM)
Sorry I didn't want to start a flame war of some kind, I just wanted to see if anyone had the same problem I have with getting XBL to work.
1. Has xbox that works perfectly, i.e. : ftp, playgames, xbconnect
2.when trying to log on to XBL get perfect connection check(three green for cable check, DNS setting, and ip address.)
3.But get Live not Found on last.
4.And have xbox connected directly to cable/dsl modem with the right settings for what ever kind of service u got.(to rule out a router problem)

I really don't know whats going on but all I hoped for was someone that had these problems but found a way to get online and shared his secret with us poor slobs that can't connect. ph34r.gif
(And Badmonkey I'm not gonna get another Xbox biggrin.gif )

                                    There may be router problems upstream from you... e.g. at your ISP or their provider/carrier.
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2002, 06:07:00 AM »

I must agree with opjose.

In most cases it will be a problem with your router or the upstream/downstream capacity of your connection.

What I would suggest to sinister is to boot up your xbox under Linux and troubleshoot from there, see if you can reach the outside, transfer data from and to, locate the point (traceroute) where you get stuck and see if it is not a local (routing) problem.

badmonkey, I don't know if you had to open any ports (PAT) for the XBlive service on your router, but this could explain why 1 Xbox works and the other not (if their using DHCP they will have assigned another  IP and since PAT is multiple to one ...).

The only way to be absolutely be 100% sure is to put a sniffer between your router and the box.

But that's just my quick view of the situation ... and who am I to tell you to believe me ?
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