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[[OX]]

Can I just do this:

Flash my chip with a bios that has Ybox and just install the xbl disk and not worry about other games messing up my Xbox.

[s_lipowitz]

yea, if you use ybox you won't have to worry about it messing anything up.. opjose mentioned that several times in the posts above, but it's easy to miss

[Gackt]

Thanks for the info opjose.

[Paulster]

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED TO ME:

i have an xbox that had the onboard bios flashed by using the enigmah

FIRST:
in nba2k3, i went to the play live section and then it said that it didn't find any accounts and asks if you would like to load the Xbox Dashboard to create one. I said yes and it went to the xbox dashboard (not evox dash) and it said that it was configuring my xbox and after it did that, it added a little xbox live tab in the xbox dashboard.

THEN:
i restarted my xbox to get back into my game, and it wouldn't work. It went straight to the xbox dashboard instead of the evox dashboard like it was supposed to. It didn't really make sense to me, so i kept trying and it kept going to the xbox dashboard. The xbox still played originals but i couldn't get my evox cdrw to boot. So i thought i was completely screwed and i thought that the update somehow reflashed my xbox's bios to the original and thankfully this was not what happened.

After a bunch of retries of burning evox to a cd-rw, i FINALLY got it to burn right using different settings in nero and it got me right into the evox dashboard and when i connected to it from my computer via ftp, my C drive was all rearranged and messed up....there were more folders and less files...i was completely confused, but with the help of friends, i got the new evox 1.8.2812 and copied the dashboard from that and the evox.ini from that and put them on the xbox C drive and i renamed the dashboard file that was on there to Xboxdash_old.xbe and i restarted and it worked fine

SO, if you accidentally run the update in nba2k3 (which IS the update.xbe that is so feared around here) you should still be ok if you burn evox to a cdrw and boot it up and then put on evox again.
After you do this, your xbox will be able to go to the msdashboard that has the Xbox Live tab and then come back fine. Now when you go to the "Create Account" section in the games such as nba2k3, you will be able to go to the xbox dashboard to create the account and then you can leave and go straight back to evox with no problem

this leaves you with a xbox that does not need to have the ybox bios and it is completely "live update" proof

now im only saying this for my current setup which is the onboard bios being flashed from the enigmah chip. As for other setups such as the xecuter mod being in your xbox, i do not know how they will react to this same update.

[opjose]

QUOTE (Paulster @ Oct 13 2002, 09:49 PM)

SO, if you accidentally run the update in nba2k3 (which IS the update.xbe that is so feared around here) you should still be ok if you burn evox to a cdrw and boot it up and then put on evox again. After you do this, your xbox will be able to go to the msdashboard that has the Xbox Live tab and then come back fine. Now when you go to the "Create Account" section in the games such as nba2k3, you will be able to go to the xbox dashboard to create the account and then you can leave and go straight back to evox with no problem

                                    You have not read my post properly or warnings.

This was only stage one.

Yes what you did works. That is NOT the end of it though.

If you boot the XboxLive CD AGAIN, after making the changes you just made OR you select "NEW ACCOUNT" in any GAME (not from the dash) your existing MS dash will be somewhat PERMANTELY screwed and you will have to recover from backups.

If you boot up Whacked, or some of the new games, this may happen as well.

So you are -NOT- XBLive update proof now, get it?

The damage is done AFTERWARDS.

[opjose]

QUOTE ([OX] @ Oct 14 2002, 01:38 AM)

opjose I flashed my chip using a ybox bios... would I need to rename anything in my C:? I saw some things in the info file about a Yboxdash.xbe or something like that. Right now I have msxboxdash.xbe and xboxdash.xbe. Do I need to rename any of these before installing the xbl or runnin gany other games. Or now that I have Ybox I shouldn't worry about anything else. Do I still have to rename the thing you talked about at the begining of the post?

                                    Now that you have a ybox bios installed.

Boot up your Evolution CD.

RENAME the evolution-X dash (it's about 680k in size) to yboxdash.xbe

Now rename the updated (or old for that matter) MS dashboard back to it's original name which is xboxdash.xbe

That's it.

Now when the mod chip is on, you'll go into Evolution-X.

With it off (if you have a switch) you'll get the MS dashboard.

XboxLive Updates will see the correct dash and either properly update it, or leave it alone if already done.

No more trouble.

Additional make the changes in the evox.ini file to reflect this so that the right things are run.

If you use xbmp6 remember to also change it's configuration so you'll drop back to the dash that you want to use.

You can safely play the games, let the updates, run, etc.

[dapoopta]

okay...say i have evo-x dash installed... the only good the xbox dash really does is to play games from the harddrive or to boot emu's or any other programs. (backing up games too) could i just put my xbox back to how it was then load into the xbox dash.... and not be affected by any of this "NO GOOD" sutff :-P. then if i do this...later in time say i wanna back up a game so i throw the evo x on there... then change back to the xbox dash what would happen? thanx guys

[dapoopta]

***the only good the EVO-X dash really does ****

[opjose]

Yes you can boot Evolution-X from CD.

However the Xbox does not register disk changes properly so this would be problematic.

The ybox solution is better if you can do it.

Worst case heed my warnings and proceed, as long as you've backed up C:\ & E:\ you can always recover.

" ***the only good the EVO-X dash really does **** "

That's a pretty big "ONLY GOOD" list. It's big enought that most people run the Evolution-X as a standard install.

[[OX]]

[[OX]]

Any idea?

[opjose]

QUOTE ([OX] @ Oct 14 2002, 04:32 AM)

EDIT: Actually I did what you told me, I didnt do anything wrong, its booting to the original Xbox dash and the chip is on... mode 4. I cant play originals anymore either so I guess none of the media works... what do I do now?

Remember that we can't read your mind nor begin to understand the middle of a conversation...

So what are you replying to?

It sounds like your Mod chip is OFF now or reverting to the original bios when the eject switch is used to turn it on.

[opjose]

QUOTE ([OX] @ Oct 14 2002, 05:34 AM)

I did what you wrote: I renamed the evox dash to yboxdash and the ms dash to xboxdash then I went to the evox.ini and edited everything so it would boot to evox. I restarted my xbox and now it goes to the original xbox dash. It is in mode 4 (I have a Matrix mod chip). Should it be in another mode to boot to evox dash? which one? I'm replying to this: Now that you have a ybox bios installed. Boot up your Evolution CD. RENAME the evolution-X dash (it's about 680k in size) to yboxdash.xbe Now rename the updated (or old for that matter) MS dashboard back to it's original name which is xboxdash.xbe That's it. Now when the mod chip is on, you'll go into Evolution-X. With it off (if you have a switch) you'll get the MS dashboard. XboxLive Updates will see the correct dash and either properly update it, or leave it alone if already done. No more trouble. Additional make the changes in the evox.ini file to reflect this so that the right things are run. If you use xbmp6 remember to also change it's configuration so you'll drop back to the dash that you want to use. You can safely play the games, let the updates, run, etc. EDIT: Now I tried all of the modes not including the one that turns the chip off, and none of them boot to evox and I can't run any kind of media on my xbox now so I cant restore back.

                                    Ah now it's far more clear, heh...

Ok either your mod chip is off (try a backup game, if it works it's actually on!) or you didn't burn a ybox bios correctly.

If backups do not work, you are using the OEM bios. If they do work everything is fine, but you need to burn with a real yboxdash bios.

BTW: You can make one yourself with FanCbox.

Remember the Matrix chip supports the "revert to OEM" bios hack.
Did you enable this by mistake?

I don't have a Matrix so refer to people who do.

[[OX]]

Dont just leave me hanging here!

[opjose]

QUOTE ([OX] @ Oct 14 2002, 06:29 AM)

Huh! Everything worked fine, now that I renamed everything nothing works, no backups, originals... nothing, and it is not the oem bios, I could play everything before I renamed everything. What bios should I flash my chip to so I could get everything going again like before. But what did I do wrong?

                                    Please answer ALL questions:

Do you see the flubber animation?

If so the bios is being recognized by the machine, though you do not know which one it is.

Which BIOS did you burn and how big is it?

Are you getting an Error 21 or Error 20 (or you might get "your Xbox needs service)?

If so the bios is not finding the dashboard.

Have you EVER made a Evolution-X disk that actually booted on your machine?

Did you try the ISO version, did it boot?

If you still have it, does it boot now?