Topic: Estimated Length Of Distributed Crack (Read 156 times)

krazyjosh5 · « **on:** January 05, 2003, 08:17:00 AM »

OK, I know everyone says millions of years to crack the xbox code but wouldnt that be if we started at byte number one and brute forced everyone up to byte 1024 or wherever it ends. We know that its one kilobit so how long would it take? If we hae thousands of users (a good majority with multiple cpus) wouldnt it only take a very short amount of time. Thats alot of computing power. Terrahertz even (if thats a word

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ArMaGeDdOn · « **Reply #1 on:** January 05, 2003, 08:42:00 AM »

it's harder than you think. well, i can say it shouldn't take over 10 years. i'd put a good bet on it being done within 5 years. i'd say 2 to 3 years if i'm keeping hope. and if i'm realistic, i will know that it is random and can take anywhere from 10 seconds to 10 years. that's the thing. it's all random. we never know when/who is going to hit the key! but the more people we have doing this, the faster it will go and the more chances we will have of doing this! also, for people doing calculations right now, saying it wll take 10 years or something, remember that people upgrade their cpu's. and also, it's random.

and who the hell said xbox was 1024 bit? if that's the case, i'd say drop this whole thing right now. that is helluva thing to try to crack.

krazyjosh5 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 05, 2003, 09:08:00 AM »

i thought the xbox key was a kilobit/byte long... one k= 1024 bytes

krazyjosh5 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 05, 2003, 09:11:00 AM »

also, you have to remember, were not going to be trying EVERY SINGLE CODE

the code could be somewhere in the middle of the brute force attempt

maybe it would take 10 years to try ALL of the combinations but the one we want will show up in year 3 or something

ill try to explain with letters...
the code aaaa would be cracked faster than the code zzzz if you did alphabetical brute-forcing
but to try ALL of the combinations, it would take the same amount of time

ArMaGeDdOn · « **Reply #4 on:** January 05, 2003, 10:23:00 AM »

QUOTE (krazyjosh5 @ Jan 5 2003, 04:08 PM)

i thought the xbox key was a kilobit/byte long... one k= 1024 bytes

i really doubt anyone would be stupid enough to try something like this if it was 1024bit

btw, a kilobit is not a kilobyte.

krazyjosh5 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 05, 2003, 11:52:00 AM »

i know i meant kb

its a kilo

shanafan · « **Reply #6 on:** January 05, 2003, 11:57:00 AM »

QUOTE

Estimated Length Of Distributed Crack, Any mathmeticians here?

Sorry, but I don't measure my plumber's ass crack!

DarkSideKila · « **Reply #7 on:** January 05, 2003, 12:39:00 PM »

*512 bit encryption can now be broken in a few day's..... "at least on a super computer"

*1024 bit encryption is a whole other story...... will take years....

*"takes super computer's "month's to many years" to crack this encryption currently...

*but who knows mabey someone might get lucky....

*2048 bit encryption like the xbox.... and were talking all luck.....

*like Armagendon said, it could take anywhere from 10sec to 10 years... on a distributed attack.... and this is being generous....

*i think we got a better chance bribbing the the x-box engineer for the key.... "there all in it for the money" i gurrantee we at least could get the key faster this way....

*but in light of this knowledge it will not stop me from trying....

ArMaGeDdOn · « **Reply #8 on:** January 05, 2003, 01:13:00 PM »

shit. i really didn't think it'd be 2048 bit! DAMN YOU MS!

i'm going to do this, but i'm sure there's another way around it. best thing ATM is to spread the word. if we get 50,000 people doing this, then we have approx.

100,000,000mhz of power on this baby. that's about 7600 time more power than any super computer.

btw, this is kind of funny sounding, but i was reading how the ps2 cpu can be modified into a near 12ghz supercomputer. that was the hype it had about being used in missiles. they were notified by nasa about it and they had to make some changes so it wouldn't be as easily done. but yes, if we all went out and bought ps2's, and did the mod to it (i'm really not sure how hard it is right now. have no clue) then we would have several super computers, and we could do some major key checking.

anyone else think i'm an idiot?

ArMaGeDdOn · « **Reply #9 on:** January 05, 2003, 01:24:00 PM »

so with the power of 50,000 people, based on the times for cracking you mentioned, these would be the revised times:

512 bit would take 32 seconds
1024 bit would take 34 minutes to 3 hours and 33 minutes
2048 (by a guess at this rate) would be approx. 150 days.

of course, this is if we get 50,000 people, with an approx. total of 100 million mhz.

don't lose all faith yet boys. it's not going to be easy or probably almost impossible to get 50,000 people. but if we do, then also since it's random, we MAY be able to expect something in a few month.

ArMaGeDdOn · « **Reply #10 on:** January 05, 2003, 01:59:00 PM »

like i said, i just based it on the times that that guy before me posted. i didn't calculate anything except devide his times by around 7700. because 50,000 users would be around 7700 times more powerful than a supercomputer.

that's all i did.

krazyjosh5 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 05, 2003, 03:44:00 PM »

QUOTE (ArMaGeDdOn @ Jan 5 2003, 04:13 PM)

btw, this is kind of funny sounding, but i was reading how the ps2 cpu can be modified into a near 12ghz supercomputer. that was the hype it had about being used in missiles. they were notified by nasa about it and they had to make some changes so it wouldn't be as easily done.

wow.

i did a little research on this and yes, thats true... armageddon, can u send me a link w. more info?

ArMaGeDdOn · « **Reply #12 on:** January 05, 2003, 04:48:00 PM »

i'm not sure were i was reading about it. maybe we should all search for it?

DarkSideKila · « **Reply #13 on:** January 05, 2003, 06:52:00 PM »

article.... ps2/supercomputer???

they want to chain them up to create a super computer becuase of the trade embargo's....?

here are some links...

http://www.d128.com/...ve/dec00-1.html

http://www.sharkyext...ight/13/6.shtml

http://www.avault.co...?name=ps2weapon

http://www.newsfacto...story/?id=11736

http://www.avault.co...ry=752001-92430

hmmm... or mabey it's the way the ps2 cpu is made... seems the schematics for it could make super computer chips....??

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......... you gotta be kidding me.....
this is retarded if you asked me.....

***also "Occam" is right about the time to crack encryption... in this present day....

*but you can also take into account that "law" forget the name... that states that speed's in electionic's double every 18 months.... for over 20 years it has held true....

*but like was said many times before.... it's all about luck....
Do you feel Lucky?? DO you?
well i do.... it's worth a try....

xdrei · « **Reply #14 on:** January 05, 2003, 09:12:00 PM »

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(ya, ya, i'm a brazilian living in U.S. if u were wondering)

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