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Keva

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Bypass Modchip Detection?
« on: December 28, 2002, 06:57:00 AM »

well i dont think were ever gonna get a working bios that bypasses modchip detection so i went ahead and got another box for playing on live
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Campster123

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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2002, 09:23:00 PM »

Anybody else? Do some of the more knowlegable guys on here have any comments or ideas?
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shanafan

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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2002, 09:32:00 PM »

Well there are already workable ideas. For instance, the whole idea of a switch. So far, if you installed and played Live with the modchip always off, you are all good for now.

But, the problem lies within MS. Once you are banned, you are banned (with your EEPROM). Are you proposing we log on to Live anonmously? I don't think that is possible as we do need a valid EEPROM to do so. Pixel has the zero value EEPROM but I don't really think its workable.
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shanafan

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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2002, 10:11:00 PM »

And then MS will figure out what we are doing and the shit will hit the fan, so to speak
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Kickace1616

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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2002, 10:26:00 PM »

nevermind, my friend doesn't want me to post about the program anymore
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Campster123

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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2002, 10:35:00 PM »

QUOTE (Kickace1616 @ Dec 29 2002, 06:26 AM)
What is MS detecting??

i know for a fact that is not just the bios because my friend made a program that would make it think it is loading a original bios. Bioschecker will even show a original bios after loading the program. I can't say what the program is called or who made it cause he don't want people to know until he gets it to load backups. we will not get banned when we go the live dash cause ms is only looking for the bios then so we don't get banned & it still says xbox live found.

It does not allow us to load backups though for some reason.

My questions are:

What is ms detecting when loading a backup?? (we know that it is just looking for the bios when we go to the live dash).

Please reply asap so we can get the program to load backups & release it.

Firstly, that program is an AWESOME development (and basically exactly what I was wanting (u r saying that u can log onto live with a mod on while running this program aren't u?))!!!

Secondly, about what MS is detecting. I'd be assuming that the reason backups don't work would have to be because they are unsigned code (the reason backups don't run without a modchip in the first place) so I'd be assuming that MS would be checking that the game ur playing isn't unsigned code (which the backup is) and hence that's what's not allowing u to access games with live.
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Kickace1616

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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2002, 10:37:00 PM »

nevermind, my friend doesn't want me to post about the program anymore
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Icculus

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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2002, 10:55:00 PM »

well well...i say a pm to opjose is in order kickace, i'm pretty sure he knows enough about the additional security measures, or be able to direct you to someone (some packet sniffing fiend  wink.gif ) who does. Other than crc checks on the bios, i'm not aware of any other forms of security. Maybe you're onto something new  blink.gif
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emailer33

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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2002, 11:11:00 PM »

i think he means fool M$ that we have a legit bios when we really don't.  i remember when used to crack EXE's that i would look for the ASM code for a conditional jump.  maybe someone w/ the time and smarts could find that jump or the part where it reads the CRC of the bios in the xodash.xbe (the xbox live dash) and make it so it alwyas sends a good bios code or a good CRC no matter what.  this would time a lot of time though and i think ti's better just to stick w/ the EEPROM idea.
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2002, 11:46:00 PM »

SO does the program you speak of change the evo bios in any way or does it just mask it. I dont think you could change the bios once you are already all booted up. But if so please tell
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Kickace1616

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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2002, 11:50:00 PM »

nevermind, my friend doesn't want me to post about the program anymore
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Keva

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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2002, 06:58:00 AM »

damm just when i got myself a new box
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emailer33

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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2002, 07:07:00 AM »

QUOTE (Kickace1616 @ Dec 29 2002, 06:50 AM)
it doesn't change it at all, u can still load backups & everything. It just makes the xbox/ms think that it has a original bios loaded. Even bioschecker sais that its a original bios.

you cannot get banned if u have this program. There is no way.

well if it doesn't run any sorta games, what the heck are you doing to it?  sounds like you're masking it, but if you were masking it w/ the original xbox bios then you would probably have trouble running everything after you use that program.  it should go back to the original M$ dash and then an original game should work.  you should double-check all your changes if it doesn't.  and if you do get stuck, consider trying to catch when xodash.xbe checks the CRC of the bios or w/e xbe does it.  you may have a chance at just makin' it always return a good CRC  jester.gif
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Keva

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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2002, 12:39:00 PM »

also why dont you release a non backup game version so to speak and a backup game version?
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Kickace1616

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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2002, 01:27:00 PM »

nevermind, my friend doesn't want me to post about the program anymore
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