Topic: Drive Ms Crazy (Read 111 times)

Zander · « **on:** November 24, 2002, 07:25:00 PM »

The serial is a SMALL part of what you need.

At this point you need the ENTIRE eeprom.

Z

clifface · « **Reply #1 on:** November 24, 2002, 07:48:00 PM »

that's a quick way to get your eeprom banned.

Zander · « **Reply #2 on:** November 24, 2002, 07:57:00 PM »

Not if the eeprom you are using will never be used on live (owned by someone who can't get live) or from a dead xbox.

Z

clifface · « **Reply #3 on:** November 24, 2002, 09:05:00 PM »

He said log on with the modchip enabled zander. Which would get your eeprom banned

Pr0crastin8r · « **Reply #4 on:** November 24, 2002, 09:08:00 PM »

yeah, the whole concept is flawed. you cant just go and take the serial #s... you have to copy the entire eeprom onto yours, or actually stick a matrix in the store-bought one to log on mod enabled before you return it.

Zander · « **Reply #5 on:** November 24, 2002, 10:34:00 PM »

^
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yep.

Z

angone54321 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 24, 2002, 11:17:00 PM »

well according to xbox they say after this mod chip detection, if that doesnt work they will be scanning for modified harddrives. and i dont see how that will be bypassed.

also looks like all the hackers ideas have died off. coming up with the eeprom idea was cool, but not an easy thing to do for everyone. i hate to say it but did bill gates win?

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Seye · « **Reply #7 on:** November 25, 2002, 12:09:00 AM »

QUOTE (angone54321 @ Nov 25 2002, 06:17 AM)

did bill gates win?

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yes. yes he did. and im not mad that he won. it was a nobel fight... and he proved why his company is number one...

Satan00 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 25, 2002, 12:47:00 AM »

your serial is linked with your online key which is linked with your mac address with your hddkey

you need it ALL, ESPICIALLY HDD KEY

Deacon brown · « **Reply #9 on:** November 25, 2002, 07:15:00 AM »

guys i hate to say it but.............

Look what you have all resorted to, talking about going into shops and taking unbort xbox serials and shit.

This is why MS have done what they did, because someone people are just bent on disruption, When i was told about this site i looked at it and was taken in on what you could do with ur xbox.

I then got mine chipped for the reason of what Evo and other programs had to offer, also the fact that i could play games from the USA and Japan plus backups.

When Xbox live came out it did upset me, the fact i could not enjoy what everyone else was enjoying. So i went out and got another xbox, simple to play live with. Yes i will have to buy games full price and will not be able to play live with my back ups, but it is a small price to pay for what live has given me.

But now it looks like every good thing some of you guys stood for has been thrown out the window when you talk about screwing MS for this and Lets take things from other peoples xbox and use it to fcuk with MS .

MS will never let modded chips they know about play on live ever, it is as simple as that. He has won and he has got £160 of mine extra as well. I know people that have taken there chipped xbox back beacuse they want live so bad.

So lets not forget why you guys inveted all the cool things for xbox and leave the hatred behind. It will only fuel MS more in there attempt to stamp out what a few good people have worked hard to create.

opjose · « **Reply #10 on:** November 25, 2002, 10:24:00 AM »

There are easier ways to accomplish what he says... heh.

The new anti-banning bioses will have the same effect over time.
M-icrosoft will have little recourse but to back off.

Zander · « **Reply #11 on:** November 25, 2002, 01:06:00 PM »

I think a point might be being missed here.

I, for one, NEVER WANT MODS TO BE USED WITH XBOX LIVE!

My goal, and the goal of the writer of the tutorial was to get xbox's that were banned, back on Live. Mod or no mod.

I think it's friggen great personally that MS is blocking mods from online use. More power to 'em, keep up the good work MS!

But banning people that used mods only for homebrew (like me) kinda sucks. Yes, it's their network and they can do what they want. If I was told that banning would be occuring, I would have never bought a mod, and just stuck with Live. So the eeprom swap solution is just to get people back on Live that were banned. The eeprom swap solution has nothing to do with using mods on live, I recommend the complete removal of a mod after the eeprom swap.

As for people "taking serials and shit". If you read the tutorial, or the topics about the process, you would know that is NOT what is being done. You cannot take someone's serial. You can only do this switch with a COMPLETE binary image of the person's eeprom. To get this by nefarious means while possible, is improbable. I have only done this method with a consenting user that user their xbox for Linux and has 0 intention of ever using or even buying Xbox Live.

What I intend to do is buy another xbox, then after the purchase restoring my original xbox's eeprom back to it natural state and just using the xbox for XBL.

This is just a work-around, not a fix all. Nor is it quite as negative as you perceive IMO. This is no worse than developing a mod that will obviously be used by some people for piracy, which I despise.

Z

Pr0crastin8r · « **Reply #12 on:** November 25, 2002, 05:47:00 PM »

OK, whoever said bill gates won is a fool. Yes, he won- against cheaters. They don't give a damn about pirates or modders in general, just people who plan on taking advantage of the unsigned code capabilities for hacking games to fuck aroudn on XBL. I totally respect their decision to block mods, but i am fully against the banning of Xboxes:

---it makes no sense, economically. buy a new xbox = they lose money. buy a new xbox, steal eeprom, return, they lose even more money cuz it gets sent back for refurbing. banning did nothing but cost them money, especially in support.

i also dont mind buying games that deserve my money... they had good intentions with their mod scheme, but some lunatic at ms seriously went off the path of sanity when they decided to ban. this also encourages people even moreso to hack live (those extremist hackers) so that they can cheat.

RickH · « **Reply #13 on:** November 25, 2002, 06:21:00 PM »

QUOTE (dmitri @ Nov 25 2002, 07:57 AM)

1. One of these people that CAN modify the serial# makes a war dialer of sorts. Cycles through all of the serial #s and bans them all.

2. Whatever checks MS does for the sn/mac/whatever are modified and sent back as fakes to M$. People have done this . It's only time before it's in EvoX and other software. M$ could possibly circumvent these new software mods, but I think the ball is our court. MS is at the mercy of some slower broadband users. So modifying in software should be possible

give everyone the ability to mod their serial# and the system drops reaaaly fast.

dp

It would never work. You have a user account associated with X-Box live. When you login, you are using your account. If a single account showed up with let's say maybe more than 3 (a quess) banned serial numbers, that account would probably be disabled immediately. I am sure MS has considered this scenario.

dmitri · « **Reply #14 on:** November 25, 2002, 08:14:00 PM »

It would never work

Ok then. HDD keygen. Everyone gets a different SN. Anarchy ensues.

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