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thedustycelt

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« on: May 03, 2004, 08:21:00 PM »

If you have the key info, then you are good to go!  Look at this tutorial for unlocking directions:

http://www.xbox-scen...cles/pc-hdd.php

Once it is unlocked, you can drop it in another modded box, or stick it in a pc etc...

Have fun! beerchug.gif
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triggernum5

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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2004, 01:23:00 AM »

It might be worth it to you to either pop the eeprom off and toss it on an eeprom reader, or into another xbox (careful about 1.0/1.1).  My eeprom is a little 8 legged standard size Atmel 24C02.  If The motherboard is pooched then it can't hurt.  As far as throwing it on a reader goes, most hardcore electronics guys/places have serial eeprom readers, or check out www.lancos.com/prog.html for schematics and a Windows programmer.
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2004, 06:30:00 PM »

Sorry dude..  You got no problem..  I'm just used to responding to ppl who don't got a backup and misread you post.
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A@ron

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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2004, 07:08:00 PM »

also if you locked the HDD using config magic you can use atapwd and the master password TEAMASSEMBLY to unlock and disable the HDD. This will work even if you dont have the key information.

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triggernum5

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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2004, 01:32:00 PM »

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Does anyone know what to do if the master password TEAMASSEMBLY doesn't work?
Have you noticed a trend in the fact that every time someone asks that question they get flamed or ignored..?  There is a reason..  Perhaps..  Maybe..  If you outline the steps you took in a clear and concise form somebody will catch your mistake, but as it stands you don't have a hard drive so much as you have a heavy piece of metal..
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2004, 02:57:00 PM »

The error message is quite litteral.

The drive refused to accept the TEAMASSEMBLY password.

What does this mean?

Some drives CAN be locked but will NOT accept a master password.

ConfigMagic will attempt to set a master password, but does not necessarily report an error if the master password fails (it's not checked) but the drive accepts the locking command.

ConfigMagic sends the "master lock password" command, the drive responds "OK"... yet nothing is set.

These drives are designed this way.

Since you are getting SOMETHING back, jumpers, interface and communication is fine otherwise.

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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2004, 04:01:00 AM »

I'm surprised that this hasn't been solved on the electronics side.  The pwd has to be on a flash memory somwhere right?  I looked up some chips on my seagate ST00114A?(The skinny cheap xbox seagate) but all the chips are annoying proprietry design.  I'm guessing that it might be impossible as they probably used special logic controllers/firmware to encrypt the pinouts even (Like xbox).  God would it ever be nice to be abe to slap a pony programmer of on a locked drive..smile.gif
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2004, 04:39:00 AM »

No the password is -NOT- in flash memory.

The manufacturer's took advantage of the fact that they have tons of semi-permanent memory available to them... namely the disk itself.

The password is written on a normally inaccessible area of the disk which can only be read by the electronics during the init.

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A@ron

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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2004, 06:37:00 AM »

if it on the disk platters then how come if I take my two identical seagates and swap their controller boards the locked one becomes unlocked and visa versa.

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thedustycelt

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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2004, 07:17:00 AM »

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if it on the disk platters then how come if I take my two identical seagates and swap their controller boards the locked one becomes unlocked and visa versa.

A@ron



I second this... It is definatly on the controller card, not the platters...
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thedustycelt

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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2004, 10:46:00 AM »

you can still pull off the eprom and install it on a good board...

http://www.xbox-scen...r-locked-hd.php
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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2004, 12:27:00 PM »

and if you don't have the xbox or the eprom?  I refuse to accept the fact, with all you brilliant tech junkies out there, that there is NO SOLUTION to unlock my hard drive if I don't have a the user pwd for it.    I refuse to accept the fact, with all you brilliant tech junkies out there, that there is NO SOLUTION for retrieving the user pwd without hooking it up to a logic analyzer.  The lifeinfo procedure didn't work either.
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thedustycelt

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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2004, 12:34:00 PM »

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If there was an easy solution, it would be posted all over this site.  Maby somday someone will creat a way to spoof the eprom or do a brute force attack, but untill then, you have a 200 dollar paperweight.

If you can find a simular drive that had a platter crash, you could part swap the logic board.

The logic board is locked, and only bill has the keys  biggrin.gif
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2004, 01:23:00 PM »

QUOTE (A@ron @ May 14 2004, 02:37 PM)
if it on the disk platters then how come if I take my two identical seagates and swap their controller boards the locked one becomes unlocked and visa versa.

A@ron

I don't know what you did, but it doesn't work this way according to the manufacturers (NOT ME, I'm merely reciting what I have read on this subject...).

I've also tried that trick with disssimiliar results.

If you read the papers on this subject for BOTH Seagate and WD, both companies use the drive platters to store the lock information.

This is why it can be unlocked if those sectors are zeroed out...

This is done by some (drive specific) utilities as part of the zeroing out process.

The thought is that if you zero out the drive with the utility, there is no violation of the security.

Before the security blocks are erased, the entire drive must be zeroed in the process.

This is all documented in the information provided to OEM's by the companies.


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A@ron

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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2004, 04:20:00 PM »

The problem with a brute force unlocking program is that it would take FOREVER to work. I actually started looking into building one but at the rate of one key check every 30 seconds it would take over a year lol!

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