Topic: Halo 1 Or 2? (Read 450 times)

Breakdown05 · « **Reply #75 on:** June 07, 2005, 04:45:00 AM »

Halo 1 just takes more skill. Halo 2 is more team based which sucks because of the noobs on your team "omg you idiot he was right behind you! And you have a gaydar and a rocket launcher! fucking moron!" halo2sucks.com points are ridiculous, I have bettter issues to bitch about than that assault one

Tricking in Halo 1 took skill. Halo 2 tricking does too but it's pretty rare to find those situations when every damn noob records the same super jump thrice. It's so damn hilarious to see people record vids with modders flying around the map and teleporting and Bungie doing nothing about and when BUngie said you could e-mail them.

edit: my sig v the original of course.

It would be perfect if that Halo 3 rumor was actually Halo 1 just with better graphics and Live supported, but of course there would be clans and noobs, inters, and pros arenas-no more 10 rooms or w/e.

P3ST4 · « **Reply #76 on:** June 07, 2005, 09:45:00 AM »

gcskate27 · « **Reply #77 on:** June 08, 2005, 09:04:00 AM »

halo 1 was only 'revolutionary' in that they finally got the controls right for a console fps... and if you think the story was better in halo, you obviously havent read many books/seen many movies as that is the typical scifi story thats been told over and over again... it seems strange to me that people hate on halo2's story so much when its a logical and well done continuation from the first... people will bitch about anything...

deftonesmx17 · « **Reply #78 on:** June 08, 2005, 12:22:00 PM »

QUOTE(gcskate27 @ May 24 2005, 02:14 PM)

saying halo2 takes no skill to win is just a lie... while it is more likley to just be able to pick up the game and get some kills, theres a world of difference between that and winning consistently...

the funny thing about the arguement is that halo1 didnt have that wide of an audience that was able to play together: there were a few random tourneys and some spotty online play... everyone ive heard bitch about h2 claims to have been the best, most awesome player at halo1 (which convieniently has no ranking system to speak of)... they hop on xbox live, get what they think are unfair kills by 'noobs' and proceed to bash everything about h2 ad-nauseum... they almost never seem to consider that the other players just might be better than them...

You are a very misinformed individual. Let me give you an example of another game. Lets take Counter-Strike 1.0-1.5 vs Counter-Strike 1.6/Condition Zero vs Counter-Strike Source.

In Counter-Strike 1.0-1.5 is was about skill and how good of a shot you were. Then comes along Counter-Strike 1.6/CZ. All of a sudden you notice you are getting more head shots and kills take less bullets. Then Counter-Strike Source is released. Now almost every fucking shot is a head shot. When a game becomes mainstream they do make the next version easier to play.

Dont believe me. Test it for yourself. You can aquire all of the different versions of CS and test it. Any person that has been playing CS for years will tell you it became easier to get kills and head shots as the game progressed. Most of us old players have quit because the game became bullshit............just like HALO 2 is bullshit compared to HALO.

Whats funny, is that game was meant to be a strategic team based game at first and in the end became a fast paced action shooter.

gcskate27 · « **Reply #79 on:** June 08, 2005, 01:26:00 PM »

P3ST4 · « **Reply #80 on:** June 09, 2005, 04:15:00 PM »

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the funny thing about the arguement is that halo1 didnt have that wide of an audience that was able to play together: there were a few random tourneys and some spotty online play

not really....i live in erie pa....its a small crappy town by the lake where nothing goes on at all......but there were halo tournaments scheduled every sunday and me and my friends played probably every day for at least 3 hours....im pretty sure other cities did the same.......so when you say "halo 1 didnt have that wide of an audience", your completely wrong.....for not being XBL, halo 1 had a pretty huge audience

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they hop on xbox live, get what they think are unfair kills by 'noobs' and proceed to bash everything about h2 ad-nauseum... they almost never seem to consider that the other players just might be better than them...

im going to have to disagree....i admit there are better players than me at halo 2...but most of the people i play with or against, though they are higher levels, arent good and arent smart players. but they win because of 1 reason....what weapon is closer....if you spawn near the sniper, it takes no skill to kill people...thats why it is so overpowering...if the sniper was more like halo 1, you would get the people that take 3-4 shots to hit you....the battle rifle....when you spawn with god damn plasma rifles, and a guy spawns right next to a battle rifle, theres no way you have a chance 1v1 against him.........another fact....in halo 1, how much time on average did you camp.....now compare that to h2....ive never seen so many campers in my life...they should seriousely insert tents into ivory tower so players can chill there.....i never liked campers, and i will never be a camper...i dont care how much kills we're down

another thing that pisses me off.....i love how people pick up the plasma pistol/BR combo and suk with it, WHICH IS PRETTY HARD TO DO, and i kill them....i start using it and before i kill them, they blurt out "oo you fukin noob, u suk bitch"....wow....halo 2 s.u.k.s.

there are some people i know who are probably the best halo 1 players in our city, that send multiple messages to me saying how much halo 2 suks and they give up....funny, yet i agree

gcskate27 · « **Reply #81 on:** June 09, 2005, 04:33:00 PM »

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blah, blah, blah... so when you say "halo 1 didnt have that wide of an audience", your completely wrong.....for not being XBL, halo 1 had a pretty huge audience

so you competed locally with roughly the same people huh? how does that compare to competing with millions on live who you never faced before? thats what i thought... and dont even try with the xbc example...

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im going to have to disagree....i admit there are better players than me at halo 2...but most of the people i play with or against, though they are higher levels, arent good and arent smart players. but they win because of 1 reason....what weapon is closer

ok so theyd win that confrontation... are you telling me that in a rumble or team game it is abs impossible to win if they have snipers? are you sure its the other people who arent 'good' or 'smart' players? ill admit that some maps can be unbalanced if one team gets all the weapons, but stop that from happening and if it does happen, fucking lay low until they come for you and get them off guard...

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another fact....in halo 1, how much time on average did you camp.....now compare that to h2....ive never seen so many campers in my life...they should seriousely insert tents into ivory tower so players can chill there.....i never liked campers, and i will never be a camper...i dont care how much kills we're down

camping has always been a problem... people bitch about the shotty in h2 being crap and the haloce one so much better (which i do agree with but its a lag thing)... the shotty was haloce's sword... duck around a corner and when someone pops by, even if they had their precious pistol out, one shot and theyre dead... theres nothing in halo2 that makes camping any better than haloce, its just that you play about a 1000x more varied pool of players...

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another thing that pisses me off.....i love how people pick up the plasma pistol/BR combo and suk with it, WHICH IS PRETTY HARD TO DO, and i kill them....i start using it and before i kill them, they blurt out "oo you fukin noob, u suk bitch"....wow....halo 2 s.u.k.s.

before the update, id agree with you, the combo was pretty idiot proof, but now the pp doest track nearly as well so youd be facing people who werent good in the first place...

how come the guys who were in the top of haloce tourneys are in the top of h2's? can a random team of 'noobs' beat them?

*news flash* you werent the best halo player ever... there is a huge population of people out there who are leagues better and smarter than you... its not all luck...

Xdox_ · « **Reply #82 on:** June 09, 2005, 05:53:00 PM »

Ok a little offtopic but gcskate you are real smart man lol man and i really mean it. I think halo 2 is better just cause it looks cool new weapons etc but thats just what i think.

n00bFRAGGER · « **Reply #83 on:** June 09, 2005, 06:30:00 PM »

I believe Halo 2 would be a lot better if it didn't cut out important plot lines mentioned in it's book, "Halo: First Strike". But, then again, if Bungie made it like the book, it may have taken five years to create, and then another year to play and beat it. I had a lot of fun in Halo's campaign, which I think is a little more immersive than Halo 2's and the ending in Halo left you feeling accomplished, not wanting more out of it. For Some reason, Halo 2 just kind of cut off at the end, and I'm sure people must have though it froze at the end with the black screen.

The multiplayer in Halo 2 was by far a huge improvement from the first Halo on the Xbox and the PC. Xbox Live integration was also a major improvement that made the game much better. Personally, I feel Bungie spent too much time on the multiplayer aspect, and too little on the single player campaign, leaving much to be wanted. Don't get me wrong here, Halo 2 was an excellent game. Not too many others can boast that they sold a little over 1.5 million copies in it's first day.

I'll judge the games by their two aspects: Campaign and Multiplayer modes:

- Multiplayer- Halo 2
Single Player Campaign- Halo: Combat Evolved

-nF

FoeHammer05 · « **Reply #84 on:** June 09, 2005, 07:48:00 PM »

The only problem with the halo 2 multiplayer IMO is the ranks. It made it an individual game, no one plays as a team anymore. It also turned people into stat whores and started the whole "standbye" ordeal. Halo 2 feels toned down, and I can't stand the BR, why did they have to take the AR away!

BCfosheezy · « **Reply #85 on:** June 09, 2005, 10:17:00 PM »

First let's all remind ourselves that there is no such thing as a definite "better" or "best". Those words describe opinions and since there's grown men out there that prefer to have sex with young boys, and most of us can agree that we do not share their opinion, there's nothing here to argue.

What was pointed out about the power weapons dominating on certain maps simply due to a certain teams' spawn location, and was quickly shot down due to the suggestion of countering with camping, was really a good point but not illustrated very well. He tried, he just didn't tie his points together. It's the gameplay that's different in that in Halo camping was NEVER the most beneficial strategy in a slayer game since it could be so easily nuetralized with the pistol (which in most cases was abundant) whether the camper were sniping or rocketing or whatever. In Halo2 camping is extremely beneficial(granted it can be nuetralized but in Halo2 you're gonna die... let's face it you die more in Halo2. Whereas I played seemingly countless Halo rounds where a player did not die because he was dominating.) Before the camper in nuetralized he more than likely killed 4+ guys if he had the rocket launcher. He can potentially win the round unchallenged if he's found a good enough camping spot with the sword, or finally depending on the amount of ammunition and efficiency with the sniper rifle and camping location can periodically dominate with the sniper rifle. The life/kill ratio with the players is much higher than a player who uses a battle rifle, or a smg or any other combination really.
Run and gun players in Halo2 have a very limited life span. Campers do not. It's exactly the opposite in Halo and that's where the conflict of interest lies. This is why some people prefer Halo over Halo2. The player has the option to camp and to run and gun in both Halo games, but his success rate will be totally opposite for the two games. This is why one game is suited for one playing style and the other suited for another playing style.

n00bFRAGGER · « **Reply #86 on:** June 10, 2005, 04:22:00 AM »

QUOTE(BCfosheezy @ Jun 10 2005, 12:28 AM)

First let's all remind ourselves that there is no such thing as a definite "better" or "best". Those words describe opinions and since there's grown men out there that prefer to have sex with young boys, and most of us can agree that we do not share their opinion, there's nothing here to argue.

BCfosheezy · « **Reply #87 on:** June 10, 2005, 10:37:00 AM »

QUOTE(n00bFRAGGER @ Jun 10 2005, 06:33 AM)

WTF?

FoeHammer05 · « **Reply #88 on:** June 10, 2005, 01:26:00 PM »

QUOTE(BCfosheezy @ Jun 10 2005, 12:28 AM)

Run and gun players in Halo2 have a very limited life span. Campers do not. It's exactly the opposite in Halo and that's where the conflict of interest lies. This is why some people prefer Halo over Halo2. The player has the option to camp and to run and gun in both Halo games, but his success rate will be totally opposite for the two games. This is why one game is suited for one playing style and the other suited for another playing style.

n00bFRAGGER · « **Reply #89 on:** June 10, 2005, 01:59:00 PM »

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Are you slow?

..I'm pretty sure that I'm not "slow"...

You do realize that the question was "Halo 1 or 2" right? You didn't really give an answer. And your introduction that mentioned perverts was really confusing. I'm asking you which one you prefer, not which one is better for campers and skill-less idiots that sit a spawn points.

.nF

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