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lordjynx

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« on: November 10, 2004, 08:50:00 AM »

Is anyone here playing Halo 2 on a HDTV Widescreen?  On mine, set at 16x9, the screen is cut off slightly on the sides (grenades left / the left side of the radar.  Right side is missing some ammo left). Is this game 4x3 or what?  If I manually set the aspect ratio to 4x3 it looks fine but cuts the sides off with gray bars on the side (as most widescreen TVs do).

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Brots06

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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2004, 07:54:00 AM »

Mine didnt cut off anyting i have a 60 inch sony wega hdtv, check ur settings at the xbox dashboard and make sure the video settings are on widescreen  wink.gif
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2004, 09:14:00 AM »

It's called overscan and it's your TV's fault.  Pretty much all TVs have some overscan.  Mine cuts off a little bit.  You can get DVDs with test patterns to tell you how much your TV overscans, but there is usually no way to fix it unless you can get into the TVs service menu.  These service menus are not meant for the consumer and can cause damage to the set if you don't know what you are doing.  If you really want to try to fix it, google for a service manual for your set and try to get into the service menu.  Good luck!  <
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lordjynx

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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2004, 12:09:00 PM »

QUOTE (Brots06 @ Nov 10 2004, 04:57 PM)
Mine didnt cut off anyting i have a 60 inch sony wega hdtv, check ur settings at the xbox dashboard and make sure the video settings are on widescreen  ;)

Yeap... it's set to widescreen... funny thing is... this is the only game I have that I notice this on.

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lordjynx

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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2004, 12:18:00 PM »

QUOTE (tempchicken @ Nov 10 2004, 05:06 PM)
It's called overscan and it's your TV's fault.  Pretty much all TVs have some overscan.  Mine cuts off a little bit.  You can get DVDs with test patterns to tell you how much your TV overscans, but there is usually no way to fix it unless you can get into the TVs service menu.  These service menus are not meant for the consumer and can cause damage to the set if you don't know what you are doing.  If you really want to try to fix it, google for a service manual for your set and try to get into the service menu.  Good luck!

I'll see if I can't find a copy of it online somewhere.  The other thing I might is the magic focus options in the main user menu.

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lordjynx

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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2004, 02:34:00 PM »

QUOTE (tempchicken @ Nov 10 2004, 05:06 PM)
It's called overscan and it's your TV's fault.  Pretty much all TVs have some overscan.  Mine cuts off a little bit.  You can get DVDs with test patterns to tell you how much your TV overscans, but there is usually no way to fix it unless you can get into the TVs service menu.  These service menus are not meant for the consumer and can cause damage to the set if you don't know what you are doing.  If you really want to try to fix it, google for a service manual for your set and try to get into the service menu.  Good luck!

Well, I did some looking and apparently my tv (Hitachi 57s500) has problems displaying 480p format.  I did the following in the M$ Dash: Turned off the 480p support.  Unfortunately, games will now play as 480i which is natively 4x3.  I forced the screen to 16x9 and it displays properly now in Halo 2.  The picture appears to be a little bit more fuzzier because of this but at least the game is running and, for the most part, looking like it should.  Perhaps I'll have a technician come out, as I still have at least 4 more years of warranty left on it, and have them fix the overscan issue.

I'm curious to see how the game would play if I disabled my mod-chip and played it that way... In theory there shouldn't be a difference but would be an idea to entertain.

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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2004, 02:47:00 PM »

It sound slike what your doing is stretching a 4:3 picture to fill a widescreen, this is actually technically a worse picture since you are stretching pixels in a way they were not meant to be.   <
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lordjynx

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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2004, 02:51:00 PM »

QUOTE (Devedander @ Nov 10 2004, 10:39 PM)
It sound slike what your doing is stretching a 4:3 picture to fill a widescreen, this is actually technically a worse picture since you are stretching pixels in a way they were not meant to be.

Yes, that is exactly what it does.  My best bet will probably be to call Sears and see if they offer overscan repair.

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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2004, 05:16:00 PM »

QUOTE (lordjynx @ Nov 10 2004, 10:26 PM)
Well, I did some looking and apparently my tv (Hitachi 57s500) has problems displaying 480p format.  I did the following in the M$ Dash: Turned off the 480p support.  Unfortunately, games will now play as 480i which is natively 4x3.  I forced the screen to 16x9 and it displays properly now in Halo 2.  The picture appears to be a little bit more fuzzier because of this but at least the game is running and, for the most part, looking like it should.  Perhaps I'll have a technician come out, as I still have at least 4 more years of warranty left on it, and have them fix the overscan issue.

I'm curious to see how the game would play if I disabled my mod-chip and played it that way... In theory there shouldn't be a difference but would be an idea to entertain.

Thanks,

LJ

I was just about to post about the same problem.  I'm glad to see someone else is having the same issue.

I have a 65" Mit Widescreen Televison and I have the 16x9 w/ the 480 Progressive Scan enabled in the dashboard.  It has been like that for years now w/ no problems w/ any games.  I put in Halo 2, loaded up, everything seemed fined, until I got to the actual gameplay.  Unlike yours, mine cuts just a small line off from the top, just enough that I can't see how many grenades I have.  It's cuts just a fraction off of my ammunition count, like the top part of the number.  I can disable the Progessive Scan, and keep the the Widescreen enabled, and it fixes the problem, but now the picture is like you said, little fuzzy, not as clear as before.

I wish like most games, Halo 2 had some kind of video/picture calibration.  

Do the TV's only do overscan during progressive scan? It must, b/c that's the only time it does that.

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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2004, 05:20:00 PM »

Yup, I have a 73" Mitsu and its overscanned like shit.  Im playing it on my 36" sony now because it looks like shit on the good tv.  Trying to figure it out.  <
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2004, 08:10:00 AM »

I'm not really an expert, but it sounds like something else might be going on.  From what I know, overscan is more a functon of how the guns or bulbs in the tv are calibrated and should not be different in 480p vs. 480i.  If you are losing much more picture in one mode than the other it might be a different setting that you could fix on your own.  Make sure that you don't have "zoom" mode or something enabled when in progressive scan.  Sorry I can't be more help, but like I said, I'm not an expert.  <
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lordjynx

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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2004, 08:42:00 AM »

I've been reading elsewhere too that a LOT of people are having this.  I think M$ forgot to add an overscan detection like most game developers do for games.  I hope they release a patch for it sometime soon if this is the case...

I'm still going to call Sears up and see if they fix overscan.  I ran Video Essentials and determined that I have almost a 5% overscan.

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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2004, 10:12:00 AM »

yeah, this takes away from the game, I can't enjoy it to it's fullest.  I never had any trouble w/ any other game that had progressive scan.  

It's not my setting, there standard, I checked all that, trust me.

Hopefully there will be a patch via Xbox live or something.   <
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2004, 10:28:00 AM »

Everbody needs to check THIS THREAD from the Bungie forums and add your comments if you haven't already.  This is a problem that they need to address.
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lordjynx

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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2004, 11:15:00 AM »

QUOTE (C o s m o @ Nov 11 2004, 07:31 PM)
Everbody needs to check THIS THREAD from the Bungie forums and add your comments if you haven't already.  This is a problem that they need to address.

HOLY CRAP.. .20 pages of all complaints!  Guess it's a good thing I started this thread tongue.gif

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