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Foe-hammer

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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2004, 04:15:00 PM »

I have to agree that Halo 2 was made for more of a mass appeal (more for noobs), then halo 1 was.  And i also agree that Halo 2 requires less skills then Halo 1, for example no fall damage.  Those who are good know that if you duck right before you hit the ground you can reduce a lot of the power taken off.

Here are my biggest complaints about halo 2, from greatest to least (not counting no system link campaign coop):

1) Melee attach is not as fluid, responsive or workable as in halo 1; too much of the screen is taken up, and you lunge when you melee.  Both these cases cause me to lose track of where the enemy is; I loved dancing around an enemy while meleeing him to death in halo 1, …. sigh. It also might be that less frames of animation are used in halo 2, making it seam less fluid, and easier to get disorientated when fighting in hand to hand combat.

2) Environment textures are not as clean/detailed up close as Halo 1

3) Bullet shells do not stay on the ground, after firing; they just bounce once then disappear.  It was very satisfying when after a large battle, there were bullet shells laying all over the place in halo 1.

4) No fall damage

5)No pistol (i don't count the worthless POS black thing a pistol)

6) The shotgun looks retarded; with the florescent green sights, and way too zoomed in.  And it does not leave as much damage when shooting a wall.

7) No blood is spilt when hitting a dead body.  This isn’t all that big of an issue, but was sure cool and satisfying in halo 1 (blood is spilt when shooting a dead body, in halo 2, though).

It makes me wonder if not all of the original bungie team worked on halo 2, thus missing some of the crucial points that made halo 1 so damn good.
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2004, 08:09:00 PM »

Ehh, they seem to different, gonna take some time to get used to Halo 2 and only than will it prolly be as good as halo 1.  I do enjoy the fact that everyone is currently on or around the same skill level so no one is getting brutally owned... Well some are but prolly cuz they jus flat out suck on any game.

If anything, I say Halo 2 is better only because we can get on live and play over the internet without having to go through xlink or xbc cuz thats just not worth the time.
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2004, 10:41:00 PM »

Halo 1 noobs love Halo 2
Halo 1 elites hate Halo 2
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2004, 11:30:00 PM »

Halo 1 takes the cake with the single player, and halo 2 dominates because of LIVE.....  So halo 2
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2004, 01:09:00 AM »

QUOTE (Foe-hammer @ Nov 11 2004, 01:18 AM)
I have to agree that Halo 2 was made for more of a mass appeal (more for noobs), then halo 1 was.  And i also agree that Halo 2 requires less skills then Halo 1, for example no fall damage.  Those who are good know that if you duck right before you hit the ground you can reduce a lot of the power taken off.

Here are my biggest complaints about halo 2, from greatest to least (not counting no system link campaign coop):

1) Melee attach is not as fluid, responsive or workable as in halo 1; too much of the screen is taken up, and you lunge when you melee.  Both these cases cause me to lose track of where the enemy is; I loved dancing around an enemy while meleeing him to death in halo 1, …. sigh. It also might be that less frames of animation are used in halo 2, making it seam less fluid, and easier to get disorientated when fighting in hand to hand combat.

2) Environment textures are not as clean/detailed up close as Halo 1

3) Bullet shells do not stay on the ground, after firing; they just bounce once then disappear.  It was very satisfying when after a large battle, there were bullet shells laying all over the place in halo 1.

4) No fall damage

5)No pistol (i don't count the worthless POS black thing a pistol)

6) The shotgun looks retarded; with the florescent green sights, and way too zoomed in.  And it does not leave as much damage when shooting a wall.

7) No blood is spilt when hitting a dead body.  This isn’t all that big of an issue, but was sure cool and satisfying in halo 1 (blood is spilt when shooting a dead body, in halo 2, though).

It makes me wonder if not all of the original bungie team worked on halo 2, thus missing some of the crucial points that made halo 1 so damn good.

Give it some time.  I have basically been playing non-stop and eventually you get used to all your complaints and wont even realize it.  I am finally getting used to melee attacking and I actually like it this way a lot more.  Instead of running behind an enemy forever waiting for him to slow down, if you are close enough, you can just lunge at him.  BTW, the melee attacks seem to be not as powerful when going against a shielded enemy so I suggest if they do have their shields powered up, not to worry about melee.

The more I play Halo 2, the more I like it.  I am at the 13th level in campaign and its unique... maybe not better, but its different and thats what I was hoping for.  If it was more like the first one, it would get bashed even harder for not being unique.  Besides, I think the elites hate it because they gotta start all over again and are getitng put on the same skill level as the rest of us.

And oh yeah, there is no fall damage prolly because MC's armor was upgraded I took it.  And crouching in Halo 1 before you hit the ground from a long drop was incredibally hard and I could only achieve it with a lot of good luck.

How many people here have played Halo 2 on live with a moded xbox with the chip disabled?  I bought a whole new xbox just to play Halo 2 and not having to worry about ever getting banned.  It came with NCAA 2k5 and Top Spin which are some decent games and both around 40$ I think so I technically paid 70$ for the xbox, a controller, and now I have a warranty on it.  YAY!
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« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2004, 02:44:00 AM »

Now keep this in mind, how can you take a game like Halo which has already proven itself as one of the, if not the best, Xbox title out there and make the sequel live up to it?  You can't, really. I mean look at Star Wars.  We all loved the originals so much we ended up really hating the new movies.

Point is, the areas in the 2nd game that really excelled to me was the music was alot better.  But then again, it could be cause we've all listened to the original music for hours on end.   I like the story in H2 but I think they could have went elsewhere with it.  And for sure the pistol thing really sucked. I mean a little reticle for any zoomed weapon would have been nice.

I definately agree on the newbie approach to multiplayer, but as mentioned before, I too have a life and don't get to play for more then 30-60 min a day if that.  Playing others sometimes completely sucks, expecially if it's one of my sons friends that happens to be 12 and constantly kicks my ass.

I own a recording studio and when I'm working on a project it can take up to a year or more to complete, so looking at the overall scope of work that has been put into H2, I feel it was worth my $50.  Granted, they will make a fortune off of it and maybe they'll have more to offer via online content.

My vote... Halo 2.
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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2004, 06:06:00 AM »

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I own a recording studio and when I'm working on a project it can take up to a year or more to complete, so looking at the overall scope of work that has been put into H2, I feel it was worth my $50. Granted, they will make a fortune off of it and maybe they'll have more to offer via online content.


You're right. Some people just can't understand hard work. Hence the French PAL leak. Sigh...
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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2004, 07:29:00 AM »

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Halo 1 elites hate Halo 2


Most of the top ranked halo1 players would disagree with you.  Read some of the forums where they hang out.
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« Reply #23 on: November 11, 2004, 07:53:00 AM »

I dont really know which one I like better but they are both good games from what I can seen I finished it on normal and now to heroic. They did do what I like about games where there are big cut scenes (like Blizzard games). The physics are a little diffrent and at first I did not like it but I guess I will get use to it as I play it more. Just like when I played halo I did not like driving the warthog because I always fishtailed it. Both games are good in my mind. I have yet to play MP. Maybe you should have added a third poll option of "Both are good/great games."

Kyle
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« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2004, 08:35:00 AM »

Just because the almighty pistol is gone some people automatically hate halo2.  that's just jumping the gun. Halo2 is different. some have said this already. but what was ur favorite FPS b4 halo? when u first started playing halo there had to be some things that u didn't like about it. but u got used to the problems and liked halo a lot more than that old FPS that u liked.
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« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2004, 10:08:00 AM »

QUOTE (oswald @ Nov 11 2004, 11:32 AM)

Most of the top ranked halo1 players would disagree with you.  Read some of the forums where they hang out.

Halo 1 "PISTOL" elites hate Halo 2
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« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2004, 12:17:00 PM »

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Halo 1 pistol "elites" hate Halo 2


i love how everyone is saying that its more noob friendly and then complaining about the lack of the most unbalanced weapon in the first game... dont get me wrong i used the pistol to death in the first, but anyone with any sort of reasoning can admit that it was often a cheap weapon...

i was a bit disappointed with the story as it just sort of fell off without resolution but whatever... havent played live yet but have had some lans, very fun multiplayer... my major gripe with it is the same as a few others: no fall damage... but i can def look past that as you can now chase people off of cliff and kill them on the way down: now THAT is fun...
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« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2004, 12:35:00 PM »

QUOTE (lord_jeebuz @ Nov 11 2004, 05:01 PM)
i can finish H1 on legendary without dieng.

Bullshit.
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« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2004, 04:17:00 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2004, 07:12:00 PM »

QUOTE (Foe-hammer @ Nov 11 2004, 09:38 PM)
Bullshit.

I agree......very much so jester.gif
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