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[MrSelfDestruct]

is there any doubt?

Halo 2 all the way

[CapriCoke]

Doom3, Half-Life2, Halo2 in that order.  What can I say a mouse and keyboard is always better for a fps than a controller.  The one thing that I don't get is where you people get the idea that Half-life revolutionized anything.  The only thing they really did right was have a fantastic story with decent graphics for the time.  Graphics weren't the best but they weren't the worst.  As far as revolutionizing the fps genre its been iD all the way.

[Sykotek]

I agree that Half LIfe revolutionied the FPS in a way.  This was the first game that was seamless.  Play right through, no levels to load, no breaks.  You were in a world (or worlds) that had no 'end of level' areas or anything, you got done storming a complex you walked out and found your way to the next place.  The graphics were top of the class for the time (remember we're talking about quite a few years now, and it still looks good) and the AI was phenomenal.   Halo is a glorified half life and that's all it will ever be.  Now don't get mad at me, I loved halo and it will remain a classic.  

Like was said above, though, the original half life was designed to run on a Pentium I.  Half life 2 will be designed to take full advantage of the absolute latest processing and graphics technology, while halo 2 is stuck on the same 733 MHZ celeron, 64MB RAM and Nvidia GF3 that Halo1 was written for.  Yes a PC has overhead.  But your standard PC has at least 4 times the ram and CPU as an xbox, and you can't upgrade an xbox (well you can get to 128MB RAM and a 1.4GHZ cele, but it's next to impossible for the average gamer, and even then the game is still written for the standard xbox, you can't increase the resolution so it's a waste of time).  I got a 2.0GHZ P4 system with 512MB RAM and GeForce4 for $500 last summer.  The same system can be had for less than $300 now (xbox price territory), and it will blow away any xbox, or any console.  

I am really waiting to get a hold of Doom 3 and HL2.  I will definitely also own Halo2, but it is the least anticipated of the three.  The only thing I'm really looking forward to in Halo2 is the storyline, whereas I know HL2 and Doom3 will be visually and physically stunning.  

I have been a PC gamer since a PC was a Commodore 64.  I know my games.  No offense, but most of the people on this forum are kids with xboxes.  Not a bad thing, but they can't really appreciate how far we've come.  I remember literally dreaming about playing a game that had graphics that were even recognizable, let alone life like, and now here we are.  It seemed like an impossibility, yet it is as real as this post I am typing.  

Well I'll get ready for the xbox fanboy flames, but all of you that are in it from the get go like I am know that the consoles will always be limited by their very nature, being non-upgradable and designed to meet a profitable price point.   Halo 2 will be good but any reasonable person will see the disadvantages inherent to the xbox.

[normal01]

LOL you cant compare the 2... Half-Life 2 will create a new community and Halo2 will collect dust in 2 years or so.

[Foe-hammer]

QUOTE (Sykotek @ Sep 24 2003, 05:41 PM)

I got a 2.0GHZ P4 system with 512MB RAM and GeForce4 for $500 last summer.  The same system can be had for less than $300 now (xbox price territory), and it will blow away any xbox, or any console.

Tell me where on earth i can get this computer with these types of specs, with case and everything (ie., not having to build it myself) for $300, and i'll give you $300.  Hell, you couldn't even come close to build it for that price.


And........your post was spoken like a true pc fanboy; one who loves to talk shit about how outclassed the xbox is to the pc in specs, but fails compare the games.

[jz28]

After seeing the demo vids for each from E3, Halflife 2 wins hands down.

Not that halo2 wont be fun, but hl2 will be much better.

[black knight]

Edit:  Of course my choice is Halo 2, but I am looking forward to Doom 3.  Never played Half Life, so I don't know what to say on that one.

[Sykotek]

Most video cards now come with a TV out, including S-video (like it or not it works) and standard coax (yellow cable).  Surround sound is widely avalable as well.   Also, there are many DVI cards available, giving better picture quality than the composite R-G-B HD box the xbox uses.  

Yes, consoles are convenient and do the trick for the least bucks.  I did not argue that point.  OK, so children's toys was a bit harsh, but can you argue that video game designers are not shooting at a young audience?  There are "M" titles, but even then the kids still get ahold of them.  

The argument was Halo2 vs. Half Life 2.  Given the available hardware there is not really a comparison.  There is not much more to say about it.  

[Liamb2003]

 peopl who like quick fast thrilling games, have more fun things to do, like play halo, so they just quickly vote, then get back to playing the game of the year.  
(I know hl also got a game of the year award aswell, so theres no point pointing that out to me. )

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Halo 2 [ 61 ]   [72.62%] Half Life 2 [ 23 ]   [27.38%]

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QUOTE (Sykotek @ Sep 24 2003, 06:44 PM)

A console is a child's toy.  Designed for use by children.  Simple as that.

Wow!  Your so damn mature.  I wish i were as mature as you.  Go back to playing your grown up pc games, and leave us "children" to our childish xbox.

[Potato Bob]

God noone here is a cs fan even tho they like hl2

[Hong Kong Phooey]

QUOTE (Xbox-Savage @ Sep 13 2003, 12:27 AM)

HALO 2!!!

What he said.

[Guyver-X]

[Sykotek]

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Tell me where on earth i can get this computer with these types of specs, with case and everything (ie., not having to build it myself) for $300, and i'll give you $300.

I would expect that on an XBOX site, there will be more halo fans than hl fans.  Look at the number of people still playing the 5+ year old half life online, and now look at how many people are still playing the relatively new halo (which you can't even play online unless you use a workaround).  This 5 year old game still gets more play time.  Halo will never have a mod following.  Once the story is over it's over.  Buy what you want, play what you want, but the fact remains that HL will be more advanced and is not limited to a <1GHZ celeron, a dated video accelerator and 64MB of RAM.  

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