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[colibri]

this would be a stab in the dark but has the thought of it boot info being on the harddrive ever come into play? i really wanna get my hands on one of these just to see if i,we can brows the harddrive..  just a thought..

[lordvader129]

QUOTE (Arakon @ May 2 2004, 03:52 AM)

@lordvader: the lpc bus might be there, but it might not be usable for booting a bios anymore.. they could completely remove the possibility by changing the bios or the mcpx to refuse accepting a bios on the lpc port.

i dont see why they would change the function of it that much, but your right, they could have changed something in the MCPX to prevent it from loading anything but an MS signed bios

[pROvIs]

dont know exactly how reliable the date will be but i guess it is worth looking into.


I have a box here that is manufactured in march 11, 2004 and it is still a 1.4 with a focus chip

[Pizza Pizz]

Tsop may be out the window too - the easy peasy tsop pads or come to that any tracks used for flashing may be gone for good. Not hard for them to use a 5v operating tsop but a 12v flash routine chip...
I found a few dip32's that would flash using a 5v ID code in a pc's uniflash but under evox and raincoat it was identified as a different 12v flash ID code

EON 29F040 btw if you wanna look this dip32/plcc/tsop chip family up
used 041c - ergh i think it was in pc uniflash or was 1c04

entered both but evox/raincoat said it was 7f7f - the 12v flash routine and didn't seem to work very well - lumpy flashing bar in evox
(I gave up but may have another go at these homebrew chips one day through evox/raincoat in another mobo)

Didn't someone post about a xbox they bought in Hong Kong or somewhere that had the TSOP replaced with an intel one and thus was gonna need 12v to reflash it ?

Anyway they certainly have been busy reworking the mobo

All this is speculation and hope I am very wrong - please hope I am

I reckon the LPC is still gonna be the best bet though they may have changed the layout of it - reverse just 1 of the points used will mean newer mods needed if the points/layout are now upside down and back to front - heck they may have put the Lframe back in but don't hold ya breath - but change the pin layout and all the previous mods on header pins are out the window too
(suppose if they did that you could have a an adapter to change layout back to older lpc layout)

All this is loads and loads of speculation I agree but I'm in UK and probably - BLOOMIN' HOPEFULLY be a month or so before they spring up over here

The LPC has gotta be probed/tested to identify what is what

Besides - we probably gotta wait for a new bios that supports the Xcalibur video chip based on the recent bios
K: 1.00.5838.01
is this on some previous xbox's coz it's gotta be pulled off first before any of the Xecuter / Evox / Linux peeps can look at it
So if it ain't on say some 1.4's / 1.5's then hopefully linux raincoat can pull the bios of still on this new mobo
(did someone up this already a while back when we though all crystal xbox's were gonna have Xcalibur chips in ?)

Excuse the long post and me having a bit of panic in me raising loads of doubts/questions - but this is a much bigger change than ever before

1.2 changes still allowed old mods/bios to work just tsop was different size and the use of ST for evox but Winbond become quite common too needing raincoat
1.3's allowed older bios to work but lframe mods needed
1.4's new bios needed but tsop was still flashable
1.5's - ergh yeah not many but just a couple of wires to run for mods - tsop still cool

This bitch looks a whole new ball game - maybe xbox held back using xcalibur on nearly all 1.4's/1.5's a few months back thinking lets give them something to really chew on thus this 1.6 or 2.0 board whatever peeps wanna call it
(ver 2.0 is an option as it it really is a massive board change at first glance and maybe very little of the older mods/hacks may work on this at the moment)

Best of luck to all the hacking teams out there

[Pizza Pizz]

They have kept the LPC for some reason and it has been used up to now
(they could of totally removed the test holes whilst they did the new board but the header pin holes are still there for some reason - perhaps they still use it a lot to test batches of boards etc....)

My money is on the LPC as still the best hope
(would be a bitch if homebrew's now use 29-31 tiny pin holes like the  "top D0" connection point if the solder pads are gone underneath. TSOP may not be flashable via evox/raincoat no more if 12v flash needed)

lets hope the lpc can be probed/identified over the next few days - fingers crossed

[walabie]

if anyone gets one of these xboxes ... might be interesting to try some software exploits.
Unless they fixed it in the kernel (it wasn't fixed in the last v1.4/5 kernek afaik) the gamesave exploits might still work. This might allow you to dump the new kernel/bios.
Then try to boot this new kernel/bios with the PBL. This doesn't say anything about booting from LPC, but it's a start.
I guess you can also give a try to boot cromwell ... as far as I know cromwell will boot even if videochip isn't supported (without screen output ofcourse - but you can try to telnet in or so). That would already tell if MS maybe fixed the methods to bypass the RC4 check.

[bucko]

, looks like a lot of changes on the motherboard. I only noticed that the space for extra ram chips was gone after looking again. Heck maybe this is what X3 have been waiting for, so they can support 1.6  

[shodanjr_gr]

[JayDee]

QUOTE (shodanjr_gr @ May 2 2004, 02:01 PM)

Damn, lots of interesting reading here, my head hurts. Despite not being too tech savvy as far as xbox hardware goes, i really think this is the first MAJOR change for the mobo. So i vote for version 2.0

1: check 1.0 vs 1.1 and you will see some major changes too.

2: there is no voting on this. It is a 1.6 not a 2.0 as that will be the xbox2 xenon or whatever ms will call it...

[NFCTinken]

To keep bringing up a sore fact, we need some bottom pictures before anyone can determine anything. Please post them ASAP. Thanks.

[derived]

QUOTE (lordvader129 @ May 2 2004, 08:37 AM)

i doubt MS is making the chips themselves, AFAIK they dont have any manufacturing setup to do that (being a software company) they wouldnt be able to save money buy building plants to construct these chips (unless they plan on making xbox2 more proprietary, but considering all the outside deals that have already been signed, doesnt seem liekly)

MS doesn't have to make the chip for it not to be an off-the-shelf chip.

With Xbox 2 they'll be buying shiploads of ROMs and video encoders, so its not impossible that they went to a chip maker and said "this is what we want, whats the cheapest you can make it for?"

[brywalker]

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2: there is no voting on this. It is a 1.6 not a 2.0 as that will be the xbox2 xenon or whatever ms will call it...

2.0 would be the XBOX2? Are you retarded? Its a completely different system. Why would it follow the numbering scheme of the XBOX? So the first revision GameCube motherboard would be V 35.0 because of all the other systems before it?

[M@n!ac]

Some symbols extracted from the latest kernel:

AV: Conexant TV encoder
_Conexant_CCRegisters
Conexant_CCRegisters

AV: Focus TV encoder
_Focus_MacrovisionHamp
Focus_MacrovisionHamp

AV: XCalibur TV encoder
_XCalibur_RSM53Regs
_XCalibur_RSMRegs
_XCalibur_RSMRegAddr
XCalibur_RSMRegAddr
XCalibur_RSMRegs
XCalibur_RSM53Regs

[heinrich]

I dont think there is any need for discussion about the version #, the xbox scene has always (well, for the most part) used 1.x, there is no reason to change now.  1.6 is already what it has been referred to, there is no point in all of sudden changing.

Just drop it already, jeez.

[CHRONOSTORM]

take pictures of the bottum!!
try soft mod exploit and attempt anyway u can think of to extract the damn bios.
it was said the d0 looks to be in the same place. well ground that ho and see if it bypasses the bios.
if it works w00t!! then if u extracted the bios then try it on a chip.
simple testing that can be done by a n00b.