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MagamiAKO

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« Reply #45 on: May 01, 2004, 04:23:00 PM »

Ahh heinrich, thanks for pointing that out. SOmeone else pointed out to me that that XBOX logo chip up near the IDE port. He says that looks similar to the SSF020 chips used in cheapmods?

COuld it be that MS has now utilized the LPC for a BIOS chip?
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Monoxide-Child

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« Reply #46 on: May 01, 2004, 04:27:00 PM »

I'm at work on a small monitor now... can someone tell what the numbers on that XYclops chip are?  I can do a datasheets search on it... chances are, it's an off-the-shelf chip with a new logo silkscreened onto it.
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heinrich

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« Reply #47 on: May 01, 2004, 04:42:00 PM »

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regardless, its about time we have something new.  smile.gif
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MovesInSilence

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« Reply #48 on: May 01, 2004, 05:36:00 PM »

huh.gif what ever the answer i do hope it's not going to end up being a swine to solder like doing a PS2 (V9/10). I can solder D0 to the top of most xbox's i do.
I haven't come across one of the new ones yet in Australia (Western side) i guess by the time i do the new range of chips will be available  biggrin.gif
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« Reply #49 on: May 01, 2004, 05:36:00 PM »

QUOTE (Monoxide-Child @ May 1 2004, 06:27 PM)
I'm at work on a small monitor now... can someone tell what the numbers on that XYclops chip are?  I can do a datasheets search on it... chances are, it's an off-the-shelf chip with a new logo silkscreened onto it.

Nobody else did it, so here's my best interpretation:

Xyclops
X01202-002
A-A02
0408C65502.01
AA TAIWAN

Note the "8" in the second-to-last line may be a "B."  Everything else I'm fairly sure about.

Edit: (clarification) This is the new chip by the LPC, not the video encoder.  I'd try to read the markings off it, but they're rather obscured so anything I give you'd be an educated guess.  Even then, we know what a video encoder does.  The other chip is more interesting wink.gif
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Master-Chief

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« Reply #50 on: May 01, 2004, 05:42:00 PM »

QUOTE (tNCecil @ May 1 2004, 08:04 PM)
Possibly another delay for the X3? :|

Possibly another delay for Xenium OS 2.0 I guess... sleep.gif

The later X3, the later OS 2.0!  sad.gif

I wonder what SmartXX and Xenium are going to do now. Make a new version of the chip? Possibly add the latest version of Xenium OS along with it for easier installations? Who knows!
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Monoxide-Child

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« Reply #51 on: May 01, 2004, 05:55:00 PM »

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« Reply #52 on: May 01, 2004, 06:03:00 PM »

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Curious could you please get shots of the back of the motherboard, and also a closeup shotingh CLEARLY the MCPX / LPC AREA.

You'll see why when you get them to me

[email protected]

Thanks
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« Reply #53 on: May 01, 2004, 06:17:00 PM »

QUOTE (Monoxide-Child @ May 2 2004, 02:55 AM)
I'm not coming up with anything on those numbers from the chip.

I can't find anything about Xcalibur or Xyclops chips, let alone the numbers.

Could this mean that these are custom-made chips?

If this is the case, this could make it likely that the chips can only meet the specs of the Xbox, nothing more?.. no more flashable ROM or VGA encoder that linux can program for high-res/refresh rate VGA.
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« Reply #54 on: May 01, 2004, 06:29:00 PM »

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Lets just see what happens..
Please dont start creating 1.6 threads all over just keep it here
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« Reply #55 on: May 01, 2004, 06:35:00 PM »

QUOTE (brywalker @ May 2 2004, 04:29 AM)
With such a radically different board design, I vote for calling this one a 2.0.

v1.1 to v1.2 was also a big design change.
Anyway, the xbox with the new xcalibur videochip was named v1.6 some time ago already (when it was first announced as being one of the videochips in the MS XDK software). Call it v2.0 would only start confusing people (remember v1.1 was called v2.0 back then and confused lots of people when all xbox sites decided to uniformly call it v1.1)

keep v2.0 for the Xbox2 (Xbox Next, Xenon ... or whatever you want to call it).
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Monoxide-Child

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« Reply #56 on: May 01, 2004, 07:01:00 PM »

QUOTE (derived @ May 2 2004, 03:17 AM)
I can't find anything about Xcalibur or Xyclops chips, let alone the numbers.

Could this mean that these are custom-made chips?

If this is the case, this could make it likely that the chips can only meet the specs of the Xbox, nothing more?.. no more flashable ROM or VGA encoder that linux can program for high-res/refresh rate VGA.

I really doubt they are custom... I still believe that they are off-the-shelf with a new logo and numbers on top.
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XBox-Savage (Clone)

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« Reply #57 on: May 01, 2004, 07:01:00 PM »

ohmy.gif  whoa , M$ strikes back.

I read the entire 6 pages and saw the pics.

so here are my guesses.

1. Xcyclops could be the new Bios Chip. (no under board pics yet so the TSOP could be under.)

2. The 4 pin chip on the right of the LPC must be the eeprom.

3. The LPC may have been redesigned to detect modchips together with the TSUNAMI upgrade.

4. This could be part of the new hardware design that will be used on XBox Next.

and ect.  rolleyes.gif

If i were you , i would try to locate the D0 and try to install an Xecuter 2.3 or an Applex V , the bios wont work but if it frags it means that it might be modable , the only thing needed would be the bios that supports the video chip.

But also i would sell it to modchip designers , like Team Xecuter.  rolleyes.gif

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XanTium

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« Reply #58 on: May 01, 2004, 07:04:00 PM »

big design changes dont always mean there are big security changes. the v1.2 was just like the v1.1 on security point of view (no MCPX changes - same RC4).

This change is probably done in the first place to make productions cheaper - as that's most important for MS with their very expensive to produce Xbox. Ofcourse it's possible MS tried in meantime to make it harder for us.

What will probably needed at first ... find where the bios is on this new board, dump the new bios .... find the new "D0" (if any) and try to make a LPC mod with this 'original' MS bios work. That'll be the first try to see if there's any kinda of new protection and to see if it's still possible to boot from LPC.

Ofcourse 'hacked' bioses will need to get support for the new videochip before they even make a chance to boot. And it'll also have to be checked if there's maybe a new RC4.

As for the new videochip, Im a bit suprised MS is making their own chip. These v1.6 consoles are from end March 2004 ... was it still worth for MS to start making their own videochip?
Also note the new xcalibur videochip is not 1:1 (W:H) like the conexant/focus ... but wider.
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XBox-Savage (Clone)

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« Reply #59 on: May 01, 2004, 07:04:00 PM »

QUOTE (NovaZero @ May 2 2004, 04:02 AM)
Manufacture date please? (So I can avoid this when I buy a new one)

 wink.gif  didnt you read the entire Thread?


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K: 1.00.5838.01
D: 1.00.5659.03
manufacture date.... 2004-03-22
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