Topic: Organized Religion (Read 1280 times)

nsfdheo · « **Reply #135 on:** November 15, 2005, 10:14:00 PM »

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 16 2005, 12:08 AM)

Romans 9

puckSR · « **Reply #136 on:** November 15, 2005, 10:18:00 PM »

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God wanted to show his anger and reveal his power against everyone who deserved to be destroyed. But instead, he patiently put up with them.

Hmmm, and who should be destroyed?

Besides, they were having faith in God, they were following God's instructions.
If God commanded you to follow the law, even if it was odd, then only the faithful would be following the law

Are you suggesting that God was mad at them for following the law that God made, and not simply believing in him?

puckSR · « **Reply #137 on:** November 15, 2005, 10:23:00 PM »

Your really missing the point

Who is the enemy of the Church that Paul keeps talking about?

throwingks · « **Reply #138 on:** November 15, 2005, 10:27:00 PM »

QUOTE(nsfdheo @ Nov 15 2005, 09:28 PM)

14Show love in everything you do

puckSR · « **Reply #139 on:** November 15, 2005, 10:36:00 PM »

Hmm....so could we say Jews are disbelievers in Christ?

nsfdheo · « **Reply #140 on:** November 15, 2005, 10:41:00 PM »

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 16 2005, 12:43 AM)

Hmm....so could we say Jews are disbelievers in Christ?

nsfdheo · « **Reply #141 on:** November 15, 2005, 10:42:00 PM »

xmedia2004 · « **Reply #142 on:** November 15, 2005, 10:59:00 PM »

QUOTE(nsfdheo @ Nov 16 2005, 06:48 AM)

Eternal life does not come from our merit; it is an unmerited gift. We find that gift solely in Jesus Christ. Eternal life comes exclusively through Him. The Christian receives eternal life as a present possession at the moment of salvation. We receive eternal life at the moment we receive Jesus Christ as Savior.

puckSR · « **Reply #143 on:** November 16, 2005, 12:21:00 AM »

Ok...have fun with the game kids

nsfdheo · « **Reply #144 on:** November 16, 2005, 08:04:00 AM »

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 16 2005, 02:28 AM)

This is somewhat circular

puckSR · « **Reply #145 on:** November 16, 2005, 08:59:00 AM »

Hmmm when we refer to people who are christian by name only, and not by deeds, we tend to think of hypocrits.

Let us try another way

A Psycho
believes in Jesus very much
kills people because of their non-belief

feels that he is simply saving the rest of the world from the lies of the non-believer
therefore his Good outweights the Evil or murder

Does this man believe in Jesus? Yes
Does this man try to act for Jesus? Yes
Does he get to go to heaven? No

Or how about one for beliefs

A man follows the teachings of Jesus(philosophically). He is a good man of Jewish faith. He loves everyone, but he does not accept that Jesus is divine, he considers Jesus more like Muslims consider Mohammed.

Does this man act in the way Jesus described? Yes
Does this man have faith in God? Yes
Does this man get to go to heaven? According to you NO

Do you concur, or do either of those two men get to enter into the kingdom of heaven?

nsfdheo · « **Reply #146 on:** November 16, 2005, 11:31:00 AM »

QUOTE(puckSR @ Nov 16 2005, 11:06 AM)

Hmmm when we refer to people who are christian by name only, and not by deeds, we tend to think of hypocrits.

puckSR · « **Reply #147 on:** November 16, 2005, 12:22:00 PM »

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Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Isn't man #1 simply taking this bit of scripture to the extreme?

Man #2
Now we have real problems.
Man #2 resembles many of the early members of the Christian Church...in fact...he resembles a fairly strong representation in the early Christian Church. Were they all wrong and did they all go to hell? This is the same collective of people that wrote the Bible. This attitude only changed after Paul, and fully after Constantine.

Remember this quote

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He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live. -- Lk.10:26

Rustmonkey · « **Reply #148 on:** November 16, 2005, 12:42:00 PM »

Ok, guys this is rediculous. No self procalaiming christian that really follows Jesus's word would even state "I'm going to heaven, you're not." This is a blatant judgement about something we could never possibly understand. If you truly believe in an ALL POWERFUL being (which, yes I do) then how can you TRULY believe and then turn around and assume that you KNOW who this All Powerful One will choose to be praised or torrmented in the afterlife? Because a book that was written by men like you and me says so? Wrong, you can't. My opinion is no matter what religion you follow, we're all following the same entity. So get over it.

But, thats just MY opinion.
Good luck.

puckSR · « **Reply #149 on:** November 16, 2005, 01:10:00 PM »

wait before you get to man #2
where did Jesus command that you could not kill non-believers?

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