Topic: Us Rejects Climate Policy Attacks (Read 913 times)

FektionFekler · « **Reply #45 on:** December 21, 2004, 07:03:00 PM »

QUOTE(gronne @ Dec 22 2004, 03:13 AM)

Remember Ivan the Terrible? You have a lot to learn from life, son. Being a nazi won't help you, no matter how often you must talk about your lovely ideology.

gronne · « **Reply #46 on:** December 21, 2004, 07:16:00 PM »

QUOTE(FektionFekler @ Dec 22 2004, 04:06 AM)

What about Alexander the Great? What about the oldest recorded human remains only being around 18,000 years old? etc.

FektionFekler · « **Reply #47 on:** December 21, 2004, 07:59:00 PM »

QUOTE(gronne @ Dec 22 2004, 04:19 AM)

I still don't get how you misinterpreted me about that. I never confused anything, you just got my post really wrong. Don't blame me for your bad reading, comprade? And I idolize Che, but I definitely don't agree with his killings. The difference between Che and Stalin is that Stalin din't stand for communism AT ALL. Stalin only fought for himself, you surely can't say that about Che. And I wouldn't blame Che for Cuba's failures, try Castro. Had it not been for Che's killings he absolutely would've been an even greater hero. That's also very important to admit.

gronne · « **Reply #48 on:** December 21, 2004, 08:34:00 PM »

QUOTE(FektionFekler @ Dec 22 2004, 05:02 AM)

Go back and read that thread, because your post is both incoherent and misinformed, now if you would be so kind as to clarify what you really intended, I would appreciate it, because as it stands now that post seems to refute my claims that there have been discoveries of human (modern man) remains much older than your initial figure of 18,000 (also in that post you seem to state that mungo man was the same remains found in Indonesia, that is wrong). All that I ask is for you to either: admit you were wrong, or rephrase your post. Don't blame me for your bad english (and spanish), comprende?

Che was an egotistical prick, if you actually believe in his bullshit crusade to free the proletariat from the Batista regime (which was pretty bad I will admit, but replacing it with an equally as bad communist dictatorship, wasn't a great idea either), then you are a fool. Also why do you not idolize Mao and Stalin, even though your man Che did?

FektionFekler · « **Reply #49 on:** December 21, 2004, 09:27:00 PM »

QUOTE(gronne @ Dec 22 2004, 05:37 AM)

About my spanish, maybe I should stop writing to jerks at 5 in the morning. I'm going to bed asap. Anyways Che did criticize Stalin as well, he only realized it too late. And I have no idea how you have messed up my text where I definitely don't think the oldest find of modern man is only 18,000 years old, or that I believed the mungo man and the find in Indonesia had anything to do with eachother. So please elaborate how you got my text wrong, or I can't explain your misinterpretation. But if you're asking me if I could admit being wrong about it; no I can't as it's all a misunderstanding from you. But would you admit you were wrong about Ivan then? You can blame others(with no substance to your accusations), but you can't admit your own mistakes. So, please elaborate how you misinterpreted my text about the find in Indonesia which I never connected with the mungo man whatsoever. Stupid fucking "conversations" I always have to have with you. Good night, and I hope you've explained yourself by the time I get back here.

It would be my pleasure

QUOTE(gronne @ Dec 10 2004, 01:32 AM)

QUOTE(FektionFekler @ Dec 9 2004, 08:12 PM)

18,000 you say?

They found 50,000 year old remains of homo sapiens (modern man) in Australia (Mungo man), and 110,000 year old remains in China, which rules out the African Eve Theory, and just recently remains dating back to 30,000+ years in South Carolina, which rules out entirely the Bering Strait Theory (as to how homo sapiens came to be in North America). They are making new discoveries everyday, it is exciting times that we live in.

Most scientists still very much believe we originate from Africa, but it shouldn't automatically be taken as fact. You talked about 50,000 year old homo sapiens, this is not homo sapiens. They are not 100% it's part of the homonid-family. I just read they were found on an island in Indonesia. And these homonids apparently differed a lot from homo sapiens sapiens (modern man). They suppose they must have split early in the hominid-family, and evolution have made them small due to the lack of nutrition on the isolated island.

If you would be so kind, please elaborate on what you meant in the bold. The third world english is killing me.

Here's the thread, to show you the quote is unaltered.

http://forums.xbox-s...ic=319359&st=60

On a side note, regarding your admiration of Che, would you not be offended if someone admired Hitler?

nemt · « **Reply #50 on:** December 22, 2004, 07:51:00 AM »

gronne · « **Reply #51 on:** December 22, 2004, 04:37:00 PM »

QUOTE(FektionFekler @ Dec 22 2004, 06:30 AM)

It would be my pleasure

FektionFekler · « **Reply #52 on:** December 22, 2004, 08:44:00 PM »

QUOTE(gronne @ Dec 23 2004, 01:40 AM)

I have to agree with Nemt, you get off-topic EVERY time you interfere these discussions. And you do it with the most insanely stupid accusations. But I will try to answer you eventhough I still can't see what's wrong about my text. But OK: quote: "You talked about 50,000 year old homo sapiens, this is not homo sapiens."

gronne · « **Reply #53 on:** December 23, 2004, 06:10:00 PM »

It's funny you never mention him again

And have you checked UNDPA's list, yet?

FektionFekler · « **Reply #54 on:** December 24, 2004, 08:39:00 AM »

QUOTE(gronne @ Dec 24 2004, 02:41 AM)

Then it's good he didn't kill thousands of people. I've said it over and over again, his killings can't be accepted. At least he did it because he had to, in order to get the power which was very much needed. And if you really read my explanations you'd understand what I mean, too bad you're the fucking moron weighing 250 pounds. I never refered to your fucking mungo man once. I wasn't the one bringing the mungo man up at all, and I never bothered the least about it. I started speaking about the find in Indonesia, and only got irritated you brought the mungo man up. What the hell did the mungo man have to do with it at all? You were the one mixing it up from the beginning, otherwise I never would've bothered at all. Why don't you read some about Ivan again, you seem to lack a lot about him

It's funny you never mention him again

And have you checked UNDPA's list, yet?

nemt · « **Reply #55 on:** December 24, 2004, 09:22:00 AM »

Che is not a figure to romanticize, he was a charismatic communist, but a communist nonetheless, and his death is a credit to our world. Additionally, Che had no outspoken opinions on global warming.

gronne · « **Reply #56 on:** December 25, 2004, 02:57:00 PM »

As this is the most ludicrous "discussion" I've ever taken part of, I won't post more regarding this "issue" after this post. It doesn't matter if I continue to explain that Fek got me wrong, and now tries to imply things I've never meant. It just feels stupid needing to defend text that's been misinterpreted. Badly written by me, or badly percieved by him doesn't really matter as it's not what I meant, which is the ONLY thing that matters. This discussion has no value whatsoever and should end now. What the hell is being discussed really?

Nemt: I respect your opinion and agree to some extent. It's very valid to question the cause of the former communism. And it's very valid to question the cause of neo-communists like I would probably consider myself. My only response would be that my communism doesn't emphasize much with the USSR-communism. A doctor should earn more than a cleaner, the only question is how big the gap should be. I would wish for the rich ones to be content with the knowledge that their less fortunate fellow citizens can take part of a system that won't discriminate their rights to a respectable life. This is the least you can say about virtually any society today. Every man should feel like a free man, but freedom must also have its limits of course (there shouldn't be freedom to use violence and so forth). Guevara should be questioned, and I can perfectly understand why you dislike him. I recognize his use of violence as not acceptible (It should be understood he would've been killed himself if he hadn't killed them, so it could also be seen as self-defense). People will always connect any communism with USSR and the alike. This I can very well understand, but it doesn't matter if you use another name, it will still be connected with USSR. The problem is that many in my communist-party do emphazise with the former communism, so we're a very split party, and will most likely separate where I will join the "right-wing" part of the communist party.

monkeyboyj · « **Reply #57 on:** December 28, 2004, 07:40:00 PM »

Damn, Im moving to canada
republicans suck!!

Boba_Fett · « **Reply #58 on:** December 29, 2004, 11:24:00 PM »

QUOTE(pug_ster @ Dec 19 2004, 03:09 AM)

Leave it up the Republican Noise Machine. People like Rush Limbaugh can dispel any myth (like global warming) known to man even if they do not have the scientific knowledge.

The unProfessional · « **Reply #59 on:** December 30, 2004, 01:55:00 PM »

Regarding the "Republic Noise Machine" :-

The only thing trashing democracy is the partisanship you and millions of other morons never shut up about.

Thumbs up your asses.

Edit: Advertising such a lameass book like that makes you no better than ass-clowns like Rush Limbaugh.

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