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[incognegro]

QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Jun 16 2006, 01:32 PM)

they did mention last year that there would be video options to let the user select his/her prefered performance level, almost forgot about that.  still very sad, with sony trying to converge PCs and consoles i dont see any good coming out of it.  for years the debate has went on to which is better and both have their benefits.  however, to me, this shows a lack of confidence in the architecture and components of the system on sony's part.

But I already have a PC

[twistedsymphony]

I like consoles specifically because they are NOT PCs... I don't want upgrades I don't want to have to futz with graphical settings I just want to pop in a game grab a controller and F*ing play...

[KAGE360]

well sony has said a lot and i know that changing settings was mentioned last year sometime, i know deftech and i were discussing it last year and how odd it was that their systems is so "powerful" but they allow you to change settings to get the best performance.  

maybe this is how all of their comments were always planned to come together.  you can alter the settings if you have one of the earlier(launch) systems to run games that actually take advantage of the faster later models or you can upgrade the chip/memory/gpu to run at full settings.  also with a souped up ps3 3 years down the line you can run launch games at 120fps at 1080p.  

even IF all of this is true, this would still screw over the early adopters.  if a year later they release a more powerful version at the same price that would just leave the launch purchases the option of buying faster components and thus having them spend even more money.

[twistedsymphony]

I'll tell you what, when Nintendo released the RAM Pack for the N64 and certain games came out that pretty much required it... I sold my N64, that was it for me. I voted with my $$s Nintendo didn't get any more N64 game sale money from me at that point.

Making something like a video playback or broadband adapter an optional component is one thing. They serve tasks auxiliary to the function of the actual game, but as soon as you start having varying levels of processor, or ram capabilities between systems... that's it, I'm out.

[KAGE360]

QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jun 19 2006, 01:20 PM)

I'll tell you what, when Nintendo released the RAM Pack for the N64 and certain games came out that pretty much required it... I sold my N64, that was it for me. I voted with my $$s Nintendo didn't get any more N64 game sale money from me at that point.

Making something like a video playback or broadband adapter an optional component is one thing. They serve tasks auxiliary to the function of the actual game, but as soon as you start having varying levels of processor, or ram capabilities between systems... that's it, I'm out.

well IF things work out the way i just described, which i highly doubt they will, then it wouldnt be a necessity but instead a benefit to being able to play the games at the highest setting.  if this comes true then you would still be able to play games on a launch system but not at the same level of detail as those who have upgraded their system.  

i do get your point though, this whole theory would void one of the benefits of a console, convienence and the fact that you are playing the exact same game as anyone else.

[MrBones]

Maybe they're gonna try and enjoy all the extra sales M$ enjoyed with the xbox being hacked.  How many people on this board own multiple xboxs?  I've seen people on here that own 5 or 6, just because they wanted different configurations on them and different case mods.  

Maybe they're thinking that if the system gets hacked, then it won't matter if it's a big shiny pile of shit, people will buy it because you can make it do anything you want for a few extra bucks.

Hell...I've already said that once the 360 is hacked, I'll buy another one to have a nice 3 core super PC.  I'm sure someone can figure out some great things to do with Linux and a bunch of SPEs.

[KAGE360]

QUOTE(MrBones @ Jul 1 2006, 10:44 PM)

Maybe they're gonna try and enjoy all the extra sales M$ enjoyed with the xbox being hacked.  How many people on this board own multiple xboxs?  I've seen people on here that own 5 or 6, just because they wanted different configurations on them and different case mods.  

Maybe they're thinking that if the system gets hacked, then it won't matter if it's a big shiny pile of shit, people will buy it because you can make it do anything you want for a few extra bucks.

Hell...I've already said that once the 360 is hacked, I'll buy another one to have a nice 3 core super PC.  I'm sure someone can figure out some great things to do with Linux and a bunch of SPEs.

interesting point but that would not help sony at all.  companies like MS and sony lose money per unit sold and recap the money charging royalty rates for the games being released on their systems.  so if sony were to sell the system based on hacking alone, they would be losing even more money for years until they can finally cut down costs of the ps3 enough to make a profit off of each unit sold like the ps2.